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Old 07-05-2016, 10:00 AM
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I'm replacing under sink water shutoff valves. How do I get the old compression ring off the copper pipe? I can turn the ring with a wrench, but not pull the ring off. I was considering cutting the ring, but don't want to mess up the pipe.


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If it wasn't leaking there just re-use the nut and compression ring. Otherwise you'll have to cut it back and may be too short.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:22 AM
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Generally you cut behind the compression ring but try taking some sandpaper or emery cloth and sand on the copper and you maybe able to remove the ring. As mentioned you can use another compression fitting.
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I'd leave it. The compression fitting slightly flares the tubing. Unless you're going to cut it, you're asking for trouble.
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Looks like one of my projects you really beat the shit out of that chrome ring. Haha good luck and know your not alone.
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Old 07-05-2016, 12:14 PM
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Faucet Handle/Compression Sleeve Puller

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Cut the pipe off.
Replace the plate
Sweat on a coupler and extend pipe out.
Sweat on new 1/4 turn valve.
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Old 07-05-2016, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by friogatto View Post
Cut the pipe off.
Replace the plate
Sweat on a coupler and extend pipe out.
Sweat on new 1/4 turn valve.
But that'd be the right way to do it.
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Take a hacksaw blade and carefully cut ring do not pull it ring is compressed
Put new valve and escutcheon put pipe dope on new ring and tighten Job over
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRealMacGyver View Post
If it wasn't leaking there just re-use the nut and compression ring. Otherwise you'll have to cut it back and may be too short.
This. The only other option is cutting and sweating new pipe. I've never seen a compression stop fail at the pipe on copper, btw.
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Cut the ring off and start fresh. Go easy with a hacksaw blade and when almost through stick thin screwdriver in slot and twist. The ring will split and do no damage to the pipe. Slip new nut and ring on with pipe dope and tighten new valve on
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I have a tool that does that ... but wrap some Teflon tape around it and install the new stop

cut off the escutcheon and use a new split plastic one
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Old 07-06-2016, 05:36 AM
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cut the ring off and solder a new valve on there
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I had that problem one time. Cut the ring off with a dremel, lightly sanded the pipe as preparing for solder. I did have one good nick in the pipe, I wanted to use a compression fitting again. So I filled the nick with solder, sanded the pipe round again and went ahead with the compression fitting, worked great and no leaks for 5 or 6 years now.

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Even if you cutit "too short (like i did) a shark fitting may just work which is what I finally did. May even work with what you have there
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
Even if you cutit "too short (like i did) a shark fitting may just work which is what I finally did. May even work with what you have there
I'd rather use the existing nut and ferrule than a sharkbite. Just don't trust 'em..too new to the market.
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Jesus Bill we both tell them the same thing and they STILL want to reinvent the wheel LoL !!!

I'd rather use the existing nut and ferrule than a sharkbite. Just don't trust 'em..too new to the market.
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
Jesus Bill we both tell them the same thing and they STILL want to reinvent the wheel LoL !!!

I'd rather use the existing nut and ferrule than a sharkbite. Just don't trust 'em..too new to the market.
What do you know..you're only a professional plumber.

BTW, I saw a guy use a sharkbite under a slab. Me, silver solder or nothing.

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Have the wife do it.
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be careful if soldering close to the wall.
I knew a guy that set his house on fire, did not know it until he saw smoke coming from the eves on second story
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