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Old 06-11-2016, 12:55 PM
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Nope. Driving an electric car is pointless.

Its just trading one kind of emissions for another. Not only the pollution from the electricity production, that is a given. Do people think the lithium, nickel and cobalt they need for those batteries just materializes out of thin air? Nope - they are mined out of large strip mines and the refining processes used to obtain the purity levels required have huge environmental consequences. Most of these mines are in 3rd world countries with little to no environmental oversight.

Basically electric cars have the same environmental impact as fossil fuel powered cars and possibly more - but no one thinks about that because they don't have to put all that "dirty" gas into them.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:09 PM
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Just went thru the process of elimination . Porsche turbo (used) vs. Tesla. I'm a guy who likes being part of the process of driving, not just sit back and let the car do all the work. I decided on the Porsche and am thrilled with my choice. The tesla reminded of me of driving a golf cart. Plenty of speed but no heart.
with the Porsche it is now the trip, not the destination.
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Originally Posted by SEATOAD View Post
Nope. Driving an electric car is pointless.
Basically electric cars have the same environmental impact as fossil fuel powered cars and possibly more - but no one thinks about that because they don't have to put all that "dirty" gas into them.
Not because they don't have to put dirty gas into them, it's because many don't care.

They want fast, stylish, latest thing, etc.
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Originally Posted by John_Madison CT View Post
I see them sitting at charging stations at highway rest stops in CT and can't help but think how waiting must really suck.
Read an article where the charging stations will be replaced by battery stations.

Pull in, drop the battery, put in a new charged battery and you get back on the road within a few mins.
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Originally Posted by skindr View Post
Just went thru the process of elimination . Porsche turbo (used) vs. Tesla. I'm a guy who likes being part of the process of driving, not just sit back and let the car do all the work. I decided on the Porsche and am thrilled with my choice. The tesla reminded of me of driving a golf cart. Plenty of speed but no heart.
with the Porsche it is now the trip, not the destination.
Don't think the Tesla is a replacement for Porsche ... Just an alternative to lets say a Lexus for a daily driver.....

I spend most of my work days in my DD ... I spend most of my track days in the Porsche Turbo

Posting this from the track as we speak.... And not in a Tesla :-)

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Old 06-11-2016, 01:32 PM
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I would buy one yes. After I sold half the stock I stupidly bought a Contender instead. It is a perfect second car. Youdo not use it to go coast to coast. Is every car you have all purpose? What a genius Musk was starting with the hi end performance crunchy gotta have latest market. Every new version is cheaper and sells out immediately.

Way more than half the cars out there never go more than 40 miles a day. The potential is amazing. And you can make your own electricity and get off the grid if you want. And the power distribution is outthere and ready tio be used - just like pipelines. Once they aremass produced they could be cheaper than gas cars - basically a few moving parts in the drive system vs. 10,000+ for gas cars. It is the future - Save the gas for trucks bpoats and planes and long distance and heavy duty vehicles

You guys need to read The Wright Brothers by McCullough.


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Old 06-11-2016, 01:54 PM
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have a C model on order for my wife. I have been in S models and they are superb cars from a passenger/driver POV.
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I wonder why they haven't put solar panels in the roof like Fisker has done?

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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
I would buy one yes. After I sold half the stock I stupidly bought a Contender instead. It is a perfect second car. Youdo not use it to go coast to coast. Is every car you have all purpose? What a genius Musk was starting with the hi end performance crunchy gotta have latest market. Every new version is cheaper and sells out immediately.

Way more than half the cars out there never go more than 40 miles a day. The potential is amazing. And you can make your own electricity and get off the grid if you want. And the power distribution is outthere and ready tio be used - just like pipelines. Once they aremass produced they could be cheaper than gas cars - basically a few moving parts in the drive system vs. 10,000+ for gas cars. It is the future - Save the gas for trucks bpoats and planes and long distance and heavy duty vehicles

You guys need to read The Wright Brothers by McCullough.


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Only on sunny days they need over 200volts to charge do not know how many amps .. Like said before they use twice the natural resources to manufacture . Musk must have sold a secret invention to the government for a lot of money to make this car.
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Voltages amps,inverters and electrical transformations distrubution, and management is 1960's technology. You can make electricity out of anything almost. A versitle and decentralized transportation and power system is a vital back-up for National Security. These is something the governmen tshould get behind like Eisenhowers Instertate hiwaysystem. Infortunalely as we are becomming more computerized and centralized, we also become more vuneralble to potential terrorist internal and external security threats to commerce, and infact our personal security. Unfortunalely there are HUGE financial interests benefiting from centralized control of energy and transportation that is way beyond any President and maybe even congress. Gasoline manufacturing and most power generation from nuclear to coal is a gamefor the big boys only.
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Originally Posted by Jus Teasin View Post
I wonder why they haven't put solar panels in the roof like Fisker has done?

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Old 06-11-2016, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Esuomm1 View Post
Read an article where the charging stations will be replaced by battery stations.

Pull in, drop the battery, put in a new charged battery and you get back on the road within a few mins.
That sounds like loads of fun!
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
Voltages amps,inverters and electrical transformations distrubution, and management is 1960's technology. You can make electricity out of anything almost. A versitle and decentralized transportation and power system is a vital back-up for National Security. These is something the governmen tshould get behind like Eisenhowers Instertate hiwaysystem. Infortunalely as we are becomming more computerized and centralized, we also become more vuneralble to potential terrorist internal and external security threats to commerce, and infact our personal security. Unfortunalely there are HUGE financial interests benefiting from centralized control of energy and transportation that is way beyond any President and maybe even congress. Gasoline manufacturing and most power generation from nuclear to coal is a gamefor the big boys only.
The decentralization of some northern army bases can be totally off the grid and rely on wood for heat and power .The nuke system is not on the internet and runs still on vac tubes .So some things are good to go with al the hacking it will come soon that the systems are no good and they will go off line like they should be
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Originally Posted by triplenet View Post
Don't think the Tesla is a replacement for Porsche ... Just an alternative to lets say a Lexus for a daily driver.....

I spend most of my work days in my DD ... I spend most of my track days in the Porsche Turbo

Posting this from the track as we speak.... And not in a Tesla :-)

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Hey triplenet this is the wrapped Porsche correct? Beautiful
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Here is a little side bit tru the major push for roof top solar most fire company's up here will not ventilate a roof with panels that in it self is a game changer . Get ready for a big increase in homeowners insurance
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Ok it is on the bucket list.. But if I am going to do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, it is going to to be in a coupe. I just can't spend that amount of money for a fast sedan. Anyone know when they will bring one out again?
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Originally Posted by lilnoah View Post
Hey triplenet this is the wrapped Porsche correct? Beautiful
Thanks... yes.... Wrap is holding up pretty well considering it has some track time on it now ...

Probably have to re-wrap a few areas where its getting hit with rocks and track crap ...

But overall I am really happy with the wrap.. fun to change up colors ...
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Originally Posted by SEATOAD View Post
Nope. Driving an electric car is pointless.

Its just trading one kind of emissions for another. Not only the pollution from the electricity production, that is a given. Do people think the lithium, nickel and cobalt they need for those batteries just materializes out of thin air? Nope - they are mined out of large strip mines and the refining processes used to obtain the purity levels required have huge environmental consequences. Most of these mines are in 3rd world countries with little to no environmental oversight.

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Lithium is the main ingredient and that's why we have not left Afghanistan one of the richest deposits in world
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Originally Posted by Esuomm1 View Post
Read an article where the charging stations will be replaced by battery stations.

Pull in, drop the battery, put in a new charged battery and you get back on the road within a few mins.
I think they have some in Israel now. All it takes is a universal battery maybe a few different sizes but it's not that hard IMO.
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Originally Posted by Jus Teasin View Post
I wonder why they haven't put solar panels in the roof like Fisker has done?

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Even a Prius has that as an option (to run the A/C at stoplights).

It would actually make more sense on a Tesla, but gotta have those luxury moon roofs.
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