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Old 05-27-2016, 01:14 AM
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Also the mezzanine mentioned above works awesome. It does not have to be nearly as substantial as the one pictured and can be added by you later. Very easy and cheap and will add tons of storage!
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Old 05-27-2016, 01:27 AM
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One more thing, I scanned the above responses so this may have been mentioned. Since you have plenty of room you can probably get a larger "stock" size as cheap or cheaper than one you come up with that is a "custom" size.
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Originally Posted by jkmjr View Post
When you pour your slab have the forming crew make a 1.5"x2" lip for your metal to rest on. It's basically a miniature brick ledge. Make the slab 4" larger than it is supposed to be, rip a 2x4 to 1.5"x2" and attach to the inside of your form. It will keep the water out.
VERY GOOD IDEA, MINE HAS IT AND IT DOES HELP A LOT

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Also the mezzanine mentioned above works awesome. It does not have to be nearly as substantial as the one pictured and can be added by you later. Very easy and cheap and will add tons of storage!
MY MEZZANINE IS ON TOP OF MY BATHROOM FACILITY, DECKED W/ T&G 3/4" PLY

GREAT FOR STORAGE AND WATER HEATER PLACEMENT IN PAN W/ DRAIN OUT THRU SIDE WALL UNDER LEAN TO

I USE MY TRACTOR & FORK LIFT TO LIFT MY CANOE & KAYAKS UP ON IT

(CAPS JUST TO SEPARATE FROM QUOTES)

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did we talk about a galvalume roof panels, hope I got that right, they aren't as likely to rust, and use an alloy headed screw so it will not rust, my roof and screws don't rust, but I had to change every screw on the exterior of my building because they were rusting, and I had paid $150. upgrade charge so that wouldn't happen, the only thing I can see that is rusting on the roof is the gutter hangars, they will need replacing at some point.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jkmjr View Post
When you pour your slab have the forming crew make a 1.5"x2" lip for your metal to rest on. It's basically a miniature brick ledge. Make the slab 4" larger than it is supposed to be, rip a 2x4 to 1.5"x2" and attach to the inside of your form. It will keep the water out.
Trying to visualize this - not having much success. I think I know what you're saying, just unclear on details.
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Originally Posted by zigzag View Post
did we talk about a galvalume roof panels, hope I got that right, they aren't as likely to rust, and use an alloy headed screw so it will not rust, my roof and screws don't rust, but I had to change every screw on the exterior of my building because they were rusting, and I had paid $150. upgrade charge so that wouldn't happen, the only thing I can see that is rusting on the roof is the gutter hangars, they will need replacing at some point.
VERY good Info!!!
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So far, getting prices from 2 suppliers. Tyler Building Systems out of Tyler TX and Mueller who has a sales office here. Very competitive on price so who knows anything about either? Seems like Tyler may be easier to work with so far but not sure. Anyone - pros / cons on these 2? Other suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
Trying to visualize this - not having much success. I think I know what you're saying, just unclear on details.
I will PM you.
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Update: 8/1

What a royal PITA! I'll be so happy to get this project done!!

Progress: Got my variance approved by the city. They had some dumb-ass code that said an accessory building could only be 1,000 sq. ft. and no bigger. BS! I paid for a 3 acre yard so I could do stuff like this and all m neighbors felt the same. Got all their signatures approving of my 3,200 sq. ft. and took in to city meeting - one of my neighbors actually showed up and spoke in favor of our building.

Got building design, etc. finalized and gave supplier down payment of 25% today. ~ 5 weeks for delivery.

Details: 50 x 50 with 18' eves.
14 x 50 lean-to with ~15' min clearance
1 /12 roof pitch (no snow here).
Insulation on all walls and roof.
4 x "skylight" panels.
2 x walk thru (3' x 7') doors
2 - 14' x 14' roll up doors
1 - 2' x 14' roll up door

Got flood elevation shot 2 weeks ago. Need plans for building supplier to get slab plans done and stamped. Once I get that I can go give the city more money for a permit.

Got 1 price so far on dirt and tree stump removal. Trying to get at least 2 more prices. Got 2 stumps that will be under the slab - one is quite large. Don't want them under the slab so paying to have them dug up and the holes filled. Will have all the other stumps done with a stump grinder.

Got price from the power company to run 240V back there. $3600. Damn!

Can't get firm price on slab till I have plans. Waiting on building plans to do that. Was told by building supplier ~7 days from today.

Got 2 more trees cut down this weekend.... and killed my FIL's dog in the process. Talk about ruin your week! Damn, I'm still upset about that one. Can't get the picture out of my head. FIL dropped their dog off 45 minutes earlier for us to take care of while they went to visit his brother who is dying of cancer. Tree was maybe 20" in dia and 65-70' tall. As it was starting to tip, the dog heard the cracking / groaning and came to bark at the tree. Ran up 5 seconds before the thing went all the way over and was 2 feet away from the base of the tree in EXACTLY the wrong place. That was it. I screamed at the dog and ran toward it trying to scare it but there just wasn't enough time. Crazy. The FIL has 40 acres up in the country and a portable saw mill. That dog has been around falling trees since it was a puppy. Still can't get it out of my mind...

Got my truck stuck in my yard again - probably the 5th time - next one WILL be 4WD.

Insulation: Decided to get the insulation from another supplier. First guestimate I got from them was ~$600 cheaper than getting it from building supplier.

Question; I have a choice here. Standard 3" fiberglass in PVC or something called "double-bubble" which is basically foil wrapped bubble wrap .

They both have the same R value. Can't figure out which way to go here. Any opinions?
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I can help...here are some pics from the last one I helped on

http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside...ver-built.html
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I have the double bubble and works fine, easy to work with.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:23 PM
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I have a decent metal building and the worst thing I see about most metal buildings is the crappy insulation, everywhere you go it seems that it gets tore up a lot, I am very careful and still have to tape places at times, so I'd be picky about choosing my insulation again. Can't wait to see some pics, I want to build another and put lean too's one side and dedicate part of it to living space, best of all worlds.
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Tough break with the dog. That sucks. You on the ms gulf coast? Only ask cause I may could help ou with getting contractors..
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Old 08-02-2016, 04:14 AM
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Tough break with the dog. That sucks. You on the ms gulf coast? Only ask cause I may could help ou with getting contractors..
Baton Rouge area
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Update:

It's taking a while but it's moving.... VERY slowly. Had a rent house flood and been trying to redo the inside. What a job! House is 40 years old and never came close to flooding before... sucks. Anyway, between that and one of my customers for my side biz gong berserk the last couple of months, sleep and time to get this going has been hard to find.

Got the building plans finalized, paid deposit and had to postpone delivery due to flooded rent house - got tree stumps dug up and the dirt guy has been hauling in dirt and spreading it. Concrete plans should be ready soon... can't wait to find out how much that's going to cost! Got to get soil compaction test lined up tomorrow.

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I found this years ago on a sport bike forum. It's the most epically bad shed build ever documented. Warning... It's 50 pages but worth it...

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/sh...s-I-don-t-even
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Progress report:

Dirt work is pretty much done and the pad is ready for concrete guys. They hauled in 1200 yards of dirt!! Maybe 100 yards of that went to various other places around the yard but the rest went to the driveway extension and the building pad itself. At $8 / yard, that's gonna hurt! Plus another ~$2k for digging up stumps and building the pad.

Got concrete guys coming over Wed and Thurs to do a look-see for quotes. Rough guesstimate by me is 83 yards of concrete. Should have finalized concrete plans in the next day or three. Then it's permit time.

As mentioned above, I had to put the metal on hold. Talked to them last week and he says give him 1 week notice and they'll drop the metal on my slab and /or close by. Then I'll have to figure out whether I want to hire someone to erect it or do it myself.

Still trying to decide between fiberglass (VRR+) and the double-bubble insulation. Got final quotes for both today. $2 difference between the two so that doesn't help with the decision LOL.

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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
Progress report:

Dirt work is pretty much done and the pad is ready for concrete guys. They hauled in 1200 yards of dirt!! Maybe 100 yards of that went to various other places around the yard but the rest went to the driveway extension and the building pad itself. At $8 / yard, that's gonna hurt! Plus another ~$2k for digging up stumps and building the pad.

Got concrete guys coming over Wed and Thurs to do a look-see for quotes. Rough guesstimate by me is 83 yards of concrete. Should have finalized concrete plans in the next day or three. Then it's permit time.

As mentioned above, I had to put the metal on hold. Talked to them last week and he says give him 1 week notice and they'll drop the metal on my slab and /or close by. Then I'll have to figure out whether I want to hire someone to erect it or do it myself.

Still trying to decide between fiberglass (VRR+) and the double-bubble insulation. Got final quotes for both today. $2 difference between the two so that doesn't help with the decision LOL.
awesome...that's a lot of dirt...
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I'd strongly suggest against the double bubble insulation. It's crap. I have a 5000sq/ft building at home that we went with double bubble on. It's terrible. Falling apart. I can send you pics if you'd like. There's a reason every building you see has the traditional fiberglass insulation.

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I'd strongly suggest against the double bubble insulation. It's crap. I have a 5000sq/ft building at home that we went with double bubble on. It's terrible. Falling apart. I can send you pics if you'd like. There's a reason every building you see has the traditional fiberglass insulation.

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Thanks!! I think that's enough to make a decision. Is the stuff that's falling apart foil wrapped and how old is it? To my knowledge, the only drawback to fiberglass is that it collects dust.
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