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Old 05-11-2016, 04:10 AM
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2010 Skyline Laton 194, purchased from a dealer locally. He brought the camper home last week and hasent had a chance to look it over really well until last night. Well the floors are so rotted out that he can push a screwdriver right through them. Today he is going back in an attempt to return it, how do you think this is gonna go? What are his legal options? Thanks guys, hes really pissed! O ya he paid 8k.....

Turns out my buddy needs to put the pipe down...
The camper has a plastic undercoat witch blocks water, but is easily punctured with a screwdriver... After the plastic is foam and then 1/2 plywood, campers fine..... And I need new friends...

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Did he not do any inspection before the purchase? What, if any, type of warranty did he get in the purchase?
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I realize it's a little late for this, but remind your friend that it is the buyers responsibility to thoroughly inspect before buying a used product. They are (of course) blemished, broken, worn after all... and only the buyer can assess and decide if the trade off of wear vs. savings is worth it. There is supposed to be a risk with purchasing used goods. I do hope your friend finds that the seller is willing to work with him, but without a warranty; anything that your friend gets from here is a gift. It may be helpful to remind your friend of this - so his expectations are reasonable going in.
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I seen people at Nascar races get screwed on a camper, but never at the dealers facility..

Depends on the dealer and how reputable they are.

Good luck to him, tell him to keep a level head.
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I guess he had faith that the camper was in good working condition upon purchase and did not look too close.. He is headed back now to see what the dealer is willing to do. What are some suggestions on what to say and how to handle this? Thanks guys.
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No suggestion here other than pray the dealer is legit, but chances are he owns that camper and it is now his problem so start getting estimates on repairs.
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I don't see this as ending well for your friend. Depends on what the sales contract says. Does it state the item is in "as is" condition? If there is rot, the vehicle is unsafe. He may need to take them to small claims court if his money is not returned. This is a way of getting the dealers name out there in an unfavorable light. For 8k.....I'd be lawyering up Cowboy.
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I see you are in Ct, here is the law in Ct for used cars and warranties, I am not sure this would extend to trailers.

http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?A=2066&Q=292362
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Originally Posted by D.M.D. View Post
I don't see this as ending well for your friend. Depends on what the sales contract says. Does it state the item is in "as is" condition? If there is rot, the vehicle is unsafe. He may need to take them to small claims court if his money is not returned. This is a way of getting the dealers name out there in an unfavorable light. For 8k.....I'd be lawyering up Cowboy.
Lawyer up? What if it was a specifically stated "as is" sale? What if he signed off that he was accepting the vehicle with no guarantee of condition made by the dealer, at his own risk?

We don't even know the conditions of the sale.

You guys kill me with this "lawyer up" stuff.
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I call this stupid tax, looks like he has a reno on his hands. How can you buy something like that and not go through it from one end to the other?
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Lawyer up? What if it was a specifically stated "as is" sale? What if he signed off that he was accepting the vehicle with no guarantee of condition made by the dealer, at his own risk?

We don't even know the conditions of the sale.

You guys kill me with this "lawyer up" stuff.
Easy there now.....Please re- read my post. I said it depends on what the contract says and does it include an "as is" condition, implying if it does, then he owns the vehicle. This refers to the "conditions of the sale" as you stated. However, if the vehicle was sold and the dealer had prior knowledge of the condition, and did not disclose it, then he may have grounds to go to court.
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Have your friend tell the dealer the Captain Bastar'd is in a bad mood this morning.
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Fix the floor. Unless he didn't even walk inside before he bought it, the rot is probably contained to a small area.
Not worth the hassle to me. Little bit of plywood and some cheap sticky tiles, done.
Lesson learned hopefully.
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The owner of the business gave a verbal one year warranty, other than that just a receipt for the sale...
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I have no idea(s) about the dealers responsibility but he needs to determine exactly where the water came from to rot the floor. Look for stains of any kind, rusted hardware, bubbled/deformed walls/siding, etc.. We had one years ago where water leaked from the roof and rotted a whole wall. Took us about a week to repair but swore never again.
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The owner of the business gave a verbal one year warranty, other than that just a receipt for the sale...
Curious as to how this is going to work out. Either way will speak volumes about the owner and business.
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He should have got that one year warranty in writing, but even more importantly should have looked the camper over with a fine tooth comb before purchasing.....dealer or not. All campers are basically made out of inferior materials in order to keep them light enough to tow, and they all leak water eventually, just a matter of when. When they develop a leak, it's like pouring water on a cardboard box, and they fall apart quick. If you think maintenance on a boat is important, a camper is 10x worse.

If the dealer won't honor the warranty, I would just find someone to find the leak and seal it properly, then replace the rotted floor and use it. Interested in what happens, keep us posted.
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The owner of the business gave a verbal one year warranty, other than that just a receipt for the sale...
Verbal warranties normally aren't worth the paper they're written on.

I would take it back and see what the dealer is willing to do. Tell him to be nice about it and not to threaten to hire a lawyer. You should never bring that up until after you've hired one. Does the contract have a time limit for returning the purchase?

I have no clue as to what the laws are in CT. But I assume from your post it's a tow behind so regulations on vehicle sales probably do not apply.
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Depending on the dealer's response, I'd chalk it up to lessons learned. I'd flip the trailer and sell it for what I could to minimized the loss. Be honest about the condition. We've had a number of travel trailers, and there's always someone wanting to buy one and use it for a deer/fish camp, etc. Many aren't overly concerned about the condition, or minor repairs needed, for the limited use it may get.
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