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Old 04-29-2016, 05:48 PM
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Default College Degree decision ERAU...Help!

I have a young man that is struggling to make a decision between two Universities, both located in FL

1st. University of Central Florida
2nd. Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University

His cost to attend UCF per year while living there................$3900
His cost to attend ERAU per year while living at home.........$9600

Degree at UCF..........BA Business administration / Homeland Security Certificate.
Degree at ERAU.......BS Global Conflict Studies w/minor in Homeland Security

He is a decent student 3.45 GPA, lasy with his studies in my opinion, but he's only 18! He loves anything to do with the military/history/guns/and seems a good fit for the program at ERAU. but the program was only started in 2015 so nobody has even graduated as yet, but the reputation that ERAU has worldwide I don't see that has a concern, you may!

I have provided the full description of the program below for ERAU. Those of you that have some experience in any of these careers, can you please let me know what your general thought are regarding which way would be the best for this kid to turn for his future.



Bachelor of Science in
Global Conflict Studies

Embry-Riddle Global Conflict Studies

Our global society brings together an amazing array of cultures and people. At the same time, we are experiencing multiple conflicts involving politics, economics, religious wars, terrorism, social upheavals, and epidemics threatening our security and stability. This international environment creates a need for conflict specialists who can provide advice and solutions to governments, corporations, humanitarian groups, and those in need of mediation services.

A new degree, the Bachelor of Science in Global Conflict Studies, offers students a variety of courses that use a multidisciplinary approach to provide an understanding of the root causes of human conflict; a knowledge of the history of the major regions of the world and their interactions; the theory behind the management of conflict; the major global security challenges of the day; and a foundation in the methodology, technology, and political processes that attempt to prevent or resolve conflicts. Study-abroad opportunities, language acquisition, and cross-cultural internships provide students with a unique learning experience. The addition of bilingual or multilingual skills in a strategic language gives students the edge to be competitive in the marketplace.

The Embry-Riddle experience only enhances the academic environment for a Global Conflict Studies student. Access to faculty for in-depth advising, projects, and small-sized classes are benefits to the program, giving graduates the knowledge and guidance needed for working in the real world.

If you are concerned about worldwide security and conflict resolution, you should consider the Global Conflict Studies degree. You will work on a local, national, and international scale to manage, prevent, or resolve conflicts.

The Bachelor of Science in Global Conflict Studies degree is housed in the Security Studies & International Affairs Department in the College of Arts & Sciences and is directly related to the Bachelor of Science in Homeland Security.

Career Outcomes
Global Conflict Studies, established in January 2015, provides a foundation that prepares students who want to live and work in a multicultural environment as an employee of a homeland defense and security enterprise; a member of the U.S. military; a foreign service officer in the U.S. State Department; an intelligence analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency; a member of US AID; a volunteer for the Peace Corps; an employee for an international corporation; and a worker for the United Nations, the International Red Cross, or similar non-government entities. Global Conflict Studies majors can also succeed at the graduate level in a variety of related fields, such as history, political science, economics, human resiliency, or conflict resolution.


Some general questions:

1...Degree program started in 2015.......any concern?
2...I see a hugh growth potential here, am I wrong? job security very high!
3...What could a student make straight out of college with this degree?
4...Is the ERAU degree worth the $35K to $40K in student loans?
5...Is a Masters degree mandatory for this type of degree to make real $$$ ?



I know this is really long, and I apologize for that, just looking for an extra set of eyes, experience, wisdom, and guidance here so that I can give him my utmost best educated response!

All responses welcome!
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Ok, maybe not all responses.
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This is the most employable.

Degree at UCF..........BA Business administration / Homeland Security Certificate

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Being honest

That degree on Global conflict looks like kind of a BS degree


UCF is cheaper, more of a mainline.degree....hands down the smart choice
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How is his cost to attend UCF $3900 ?
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I didn't realize ERAU had anything beyond their aviation programs - for which they are well know.
To me, going there for a non-aviation program would be like going to Mass Maritime and majoring in english, or MIT for history.
I don't know what one does with a BS in Homeland Security besides become a TSA screener! It would seem like there is some career in government, but the feds are big into advanced degrees - so this person will need at least a Master's degree.
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Can't really comment on the major, but I work with several recent engineering grads from Embry-Riddle. They are all good.

One general comment. I review lots of resumes, and pay very little attention to "minor in xxx"
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1. He needs to go away to college
2. It's apparently cheaper (I have no idea how)
3. Business degree more "fungible" than the global conflicts BS degree

Go to UCF.

Has he considered engineering? Or IT technology? Both more employable. Or health care.
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Originally Posted by Buoy Scout View Post
2. It's apparently cheaper (I have no idea how)
3. Business degree more "fungible" than the global conflicts BS degree

Go to UCF.

Has he considered engineering? Or IT technology? Both more employable. Or health care.
I believe Embry Riddle is a private school. I know back in the late 80s it was one of more the expensive in the state.
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Originally Posted by triplenet View Post
How is his cost to attend UCF $3900 ?
Easy....

Young black male, very poor family, good GPA, good SAT and ACT scores, and many scholarships and grants.
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Never even thought about the non aviation degree thing, that really makes a lot of sense. This is exactly why I post here and elsewhere for answers, lots of smart minds better than one mediocre mind.

Based on the responces here and the "pm's" I've received it really does sound like UCF is the better choice!
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If you go to Embry Riddle you need to come out of there flying a plane.

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Don't blow the extra money on ERAU. It's not even necessary for an aviation degree.
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I think a good part of evaluating Embry Riddle would be the background of the instructors. Are they retired Military, CIA, foreign service career people or are they academics with no real world experience. Do they have access to the "good ol boy" network that can get their students internships and jobs in the industry.
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What the hell happened
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Originally Posted by FishnDive View Post
What the hell happened
What do you mean?
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ERAU Grad here, I put out one job application and am still at the company 25 years later. Well they recruited me for my license.

A.S. in Aviation Maintenance Tech.
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Ucf. Nothing wrong with Embry, but ucf is a state university and will help eliminate some negative perceptions regarding private schools or "newer" degrees. He could always ROTC it and go into the military as an officer to help build his young resume, though I'm not sure any more of the requirements and timing of such.
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Spray . . .

I have six kids. Two have graduated college. One is in college. The last three are in 10th, 11th and 12th grade at a local high school.

Here is what I have told EVERY one of my kids.

Your "job" #1 in high school is to get "A"'s on your report cards. If you are struggling, you need to let me or your mother know, and either we will help you (not do the work but assist), or we will hire tutors to help you raise your grades. After all, if you don't want to work hard enough to do well in high school, why would you do better in college where the costs are a LOT higher (and the distractions are a lot greater)?

BUT, their "job" is to get "A's". Same thing applies to SAT/ACT testing.

The first two years of college are 100% on YOU. English 101 is the same at Harvard University as it is at the local junior (or technical) college. The only difference is the cost.

Both my wife and I went to college via the junior college route. In my case, I spent too much time surfing in high school and my grades didn't support a penny of scholarship and my parents could not afford to pay either.

So what did I do?

I worked out living arrangements with my parents (at no cost for room and board) and drove to college.

Now, back to your situation.

Spray, do you know the number one reason kids drop out of college today?

Bad grades?

Nope. Almost half of college drop outs are due to excessive debt.

So my next situation with all my kids is - if you incur one penny of credit card (or any other form of debt), Mom and I will not help you financially get through college. Unreasonable? Perhaps. I believe life is a lot of choices. I coach each of them about work ethics, debt, school, a whole lot of things, They will have to make choices. This is part of growing up. Some will be good choices, some will not. I have made some terrible choices in my life and still I have come out reasonably well.

INCURRING STUDENT LOAN DEBT IS AN AWFUL CHOICE!!!!!!

Student loan debt has to be paid whether you make money or not.

Student loan debt cannot be relieved through bankruptcy;

Student loan debt can garnish wages without going to court. Nice, huh?

The FASTEST form of debt growth in the US is student loan debt. This is terrible. To receive an onion skin piece of paper known as a college diploma, kids are starting their lives in massive debt with no job.

This is "smart"?????

Instead, with your son's interest in history/military, why not take him to a recruiter? Army, Navy, Marines, Air Farce, Coast Guard. If qualified they will also assist in his education too. Certainly help him develop outstanding leadership qualities something taught at NO US college except the service academies.

PM me if you have any more questions. I would like to help any way I can.

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