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Old 05-01-2016, 12:15 PM
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The good news is we are making headway in assigning the correct label to my level of intellect.

If they didn't want to to abide by the law they should have closed their bakery. They accepted the business license, one must assume in good faith, but then they failed to honor that trust put in them to serve the public equally as ruled by the prevailing law of the time.

So they are dumb or deceitful...actually, they have demonstrated that they are both.

Moving on. Who decides which are the laws to be ignored and which are the JUST laws? Can we all have a go?

This is an honest question. Are you a Sovereign Citizen?
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OReely View Post
I'm assuming you mean "type in guns, or ammunition" in the search box on the Target web site. If that is so, it doesn't surprise me that they would have something like toys and magazines come up since they don't sell real guns and ammunition. What would you expect to come up?

The idea that you give your wife "INSTRUCTIONS to adhere to" amazes me. My wife and I talk about things but she is free to make up her mind about whatever the issue may be.

Since you brought up the guns and ammo thing, when I first started reading some of the comments on these Target threads I thought of the parallels between some of the arguments used against this bathroom policy and arguments used in threads about CCW and/or guns laws.

It has been pointed out, ad infinitum, that criminals don't care about gun laws. They will still have and use guns in the commission of crimes. Do you guys think these supposed restroom predators have just been waiting for a policy that would allow them to go into a women's restroom?

Criminals are going to do what criminals do. Laws don't apply to them (in their thinking). If a predator was going to put on a dress and go in a woman's restroom before, they will do the same now. Laws or policies don't mean anything to them. A truly transgender person isn't a threat to other women or girls.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see this as any different than the gun thing. Maybe I'm just not afraid of guns or gays or trangender or whatever.
Yes I meant type in either of those words in the target website search.
At one time they did have guns and ammo--that was my meaning.
And to "adhere to" was suggested in the way I said it to my wife--- I left that a bit of guess the way I wrote it and could be misinterpreted as was posted--so I'm clarifying here.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:42 PM
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I'm a patriotic citizen, I turn into sovereign when time comes to exercise the 2nd Amendment as intended.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:56 PM
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I didn't think Target had ever sold guns or ammo.

I am surprised.
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:00 PM
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I am no longer surprised...

Target stores do not sell firearms. In the early 1990s, they ceased sales of toy guns that looked realistic and limited its toy gun selection to ones that were brightly colored and oddly shaped. In 2014, Target also "respectfully" asked their guests to leave any firearms at home when visiting the store.[110] They do not sell tobacco products and have not sold cigarettes since 1996.[111] This is a key point of differentiation with Target's chief competitor Walmart, which offers firearms and tobacco at many stores
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by antlerz22 View Post
Hey Einstein, just because a law is written doesn't mean its a just law--and in that context, we can and will defy as they did. A law defying the popular concensus isn't a law, its USURPATION. Broke the law?---what a farking joke those words are--its not a JUST law which transcends it to illegal--regardless of what it says or is classified as.
I'm of the opinion that laws, at least here in the United States, should protect all people. The "majority rules" concept is great for voting as we get an opportunity to choose our representatives. However, the majority could want laws that are specifically harmful to the minority and I think that is what comes into play here. Now, I'm no legal scholar but I believe the rulings of the court hold sway over the wishes of the supposed "majority" when it come to protecting the minority.

Usurpation? Really? If I recall correctly, the bakery was found to be discriminating against a gay couple. The courts found them guilty and whacked them with a fine. I hardly think that rises to the level of usurpation. You may disagree with the law but guess what - it's the law. Follow or not at your peril. More interpreting of your writing by me. It appears to me that you want to protect the rights of a business who's policies you agree with but want to close down one that doesn't align with your opinion.
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When a PERVERSE minority wants me to coddle them as normal, and use the word discrimination as a tool for getting laws hedging against my morality for their immorality---then yes. You cant have right and wrong on the same podium. Room for one only. After all--if there were babies being born from assholes then maybe I could see their point.
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Well, do you have kids?
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Nope, don't care.

Those who do should worry more about getting killed in a wreck on the way there than someone peeking into their stall.
Exactly. We all have much bigger problems. Because of the stupid law we probably will get a progressive in the State Office and maybe Congress,
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The bakery was a privately owned company who should be able to deal with those they choose. Just because they were "breaking a law" doesn't man a damned thing. This country wasn't founded by lemmings.
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The bakery was a privately owned company who should be able to deal with those they choose. Just because they were "breaking a law" doesn't man a damned thing. This country wasn't founded by lemmings.
So all businesses should be able to discriminate? By that logic, if u don't like blacks- no service. Don't like women- no service, Muslims- no service, white people- no service!

Since when are we able to choose which laws we can abide and which we can't?
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
So all businesses should be able to discriminate? By that logic, if u don't like blacks- no service. Don't like women- no service, Muslims- no service, white people- no service!

Since when are we able to choose which laws we can abide and which we can't?
So you agree with what happened to the bakery owners?
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Well, do you have kids?
I do and one of them was a victim of a hidden camera. In my opinion one victim is too many.
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Yes I do. If you have a business that is open up to the public, you should have to serve all of the public!
As I said before, where do you draw the line on discrimination? The bakery might not like to serve homosexuals, what about the Bakery that does not want to serve white, black Asian, Christian or Muslims?
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
Yes I do. If you have a business that is open up to the public, you should have to serve all of the public!
As I said before, where do you draw the line on discrimination? The bakery might not like to serve homosexuals, what about the Bakery that does not want to serve white, black Asian, Christian or Muslims?
I like the idea of private property rights but it looks like we should just agree to disagree.
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
Yes I do. If you have a business that is open up to the public, you should have to serve all of the public!
As I said before, where do you draw the line on discrimination? The bakery might not like to serve homosexuals, what about the Bakery that does not want to serve white, black Asian, Christian or Muslims?
It's their business, they should have the right to server whomever they want or don't want. I'm not saying it's morally right necessarily, but it is THEIR right. For the most part, businesses that will discriminate, probably won't be in business for much longer due to political correctness and pressure from the free market. A business is a PRIVATE business, not owned by the government. Businesses are open to whomever they want to serve, not mandatory that they serve all of the public. Again, THEIR right to serve whom they want, not the government's right to dictate that.
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I refuse to use the ladies' room at Target ever again
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
So all businesses should be able to discriminate?
A privately owned business should have the RIGHT to determine who they are willing to serve. By the same token, potential customers also have the RIGHT to avoid spending their money at that business if they do not like those policies.

We have become the United States of the Offended. The Declaration of Independence gave us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:52 PM
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For those asserting that it is THEIR RIGHT and so forth, it isn't.

It is a private business governed by the laws, rules and regulations of the municipality, state and country in which they applied to run their privately owned business in PUBLIC. They relinquished their rights to do as they so please when applying for their business license.

Their rights don't trump everybody else's rights to be treated equally under the law.

Let's not forget it was the bakers started with the "I'm offended" tirade. Be offended all day long, just don't discriminate.

It's not rocket surgery.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Dreamer View Post
For those asserting that it is THEIR RIGHT and so forth, it isn't.

It is a private business governed by the laws, rules and regulations of the municipality, state and country in which they applied to run their privately owned business in PUBLIC. They relinquished their rights to do as they so please when applying for their business license.

Their rights don't trump everybody else's rights to be treated equally under the law.

Let's not forget it was the bakers started with the "I'm offended" tirade. Be offended all day long, just don't discriminate.

It's not rocket surgery.
So by getting a Biz license your rights to serve whom you please are dictated by the state. The license itself is violating my rights to practice my religion?
Just don't get a license......problem solved.

Oh wait.....that's illegal too.
Who do I sue?
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