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Old 04-27-2016, 04:26 AM
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Saw this yesterday.

What a shame.
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Oh man, I need to get on Facebook and pretend I was a huge fan of his assistant.
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Wear your helmets, boys.
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The 911 operator was a idiot.
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Originally Posted by Alureing View Post
The 911 operator was a idiot.
Agreed. When I heard the call I was saying to myself, just send the ambulance instead of questioning the guy for 20 minutes. Send the ambulance etc and then continue to talk to him to get the info.
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Originally Posted by doobs41378 View Post
Agreed. When I heard the call I was saying to myself, just send the ambulance instead of questioning the guy for 20 minutes. Send the ambulance etc and then continue to talk to him to get the info.
Bobby put it berfect, just sent the F*&#EN ambulance!!!!
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Wow...that 911 operator needs to be fired, zero clue. Just send the ambulance.
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I'll play devils advocate. First off the call was being typed up well before the 911 call ended, the dispatcher was attempting to gather as much information as possible before dispatching the appropriate resources. EMS was being notified 30 seconds into the call, guaranteed, the additional questions are most likely done at the request of EMS. When we ask for EMS we have to answer a million questions, as if EMS is going to send a different rig or personal to the call. Then EMS will stage most the time until the scene is deemed safe by leos, which can take time. Rock doesn't help by loosing his cool and cursing, which is sometimes an indicator that there is more to a scene then just a medical emergency. Just some observations from someone on the inside... (<<<more ellipses)
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I agree that that EMS was probably already dispatched BUT the dispatcher should have said that then questioned them further... I briefly listened to the recording and I never heard the dispatcher tell them that... If she would spend 30 secs and calm them down it would have worked out better. While it is nice to get all the information from people you can while complainants don't have their guard up (in criminal matters), I would have handled that differently.
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I agree that that EMS was probably already dispatched BUT the dispatcher should have said that then questioned them further... I briefly listened to the recording and I never heard the dispatcher tell them that... If she would spend 30 secs and calm them down it would have worked out better. While it is nice to get all the information from people you can while complainants don't have their guard up (in criminal matters), I would have handled that differently.
I agree the "customer care" section could have been handled better, but the outcome would not have changed due to America's heroes already been woken up and told where to go. Plus here EMS can get there as fast as they want, but they "stage" on so many calls it's unreal, and "staging" will only increase with the recent incident of EMS workers getting shot. This truly sucks for those in need of immediate medical attention.
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
I agree that that EMS was probably already dispatched BUT the dispatcher should have said that then questioned them further... I briefly listened to the recording and I never heard the dispatcher tell them that... If she would spend 30 secs and calm them down it would have worked out better. While it is nice to get all the information from people you can while complainants don't have their guard up (in criminal matters), I would have handled that differently.
Operator- Hello 911, what is your emergency?
Caller- Give address- quick details, Give address, need ambo/police/fire dapartment/whatever, be clear when giving the address
Operator- repeats the address back. "Ambo/police/FD is on the way". THEN, continue getting details to send what other emergency equipment is needed.

This should be a PSA of how to use 911, what to say first, second, etc.
911 operators and callers need to be on the same page.
IF you are too distraught to clearly talk to the operator to convey the needed info and someone else is there that can do it, let them make the call.
If you are the only one to make the call, it won't be easy but screaming at the operator won't make it better either.

Sometimes the operator can give advice to help clear an airway, stop bleeding, start CPR, etc. IF they know some details and it is not too late.

These should run on TV every now and then like before major holidays, full moons, etc.

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Originally Posted by 240 LTS View Post
Operator- Hello 911, what is your emergency?
Caller- Give address- quick details, Give address, need ambo/police/fire dapartment/whatever, be clear when giving the address
Operator- repeats the address back. "Ambo/police/FD is on the way". THEN, continue getting details to send what other emergency equipment is needed.

This should be a PSA of how to use 911, what to say first, second, etc.
911 operators and callers need to be on the same page.
IF you are too distraught to clearly talk to the operator to convey the needed info and someone else is there that can do it, let them make the call.
If you are the only one to make the call, it won't be easy but screaming at the operator won't make it better either.

Sometimes the operator can give advice to help clear an airway, stop bleeding, start CPR, etc. IF they know some details and it is not too late.

These should run on TV every now and then like before major holidays, full moons, etc.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZHoRUqnABQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZfWk3FOqlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyPIQ_7gecQ


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A smart phone will automatically give the location of the caller upon dialing 911, and a land line indicates the address automatically as well...
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Jesus that's hard to listen to. The 911 OP is horrible.
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Originally Posted by Alureing View Post
A smart phone will automatically give the location of the caller upon dialing 911, and a land line indicates the address automatically as well...
Yeah, and doesn't their system have caller ID. You are telling me you cannot tell me the number I am calling from? That's BS
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Originally Posted by Alureing View Post
A smart phone will automatically give the location of the caller upon dialing 911, and a land line indicates the address automatically as well...
Then, why doesn't the operator state the address and say,
Operator- "I have the location as 123 Maple St, Anytown, Florida, correct?
Caller- Yes
Operator- Help is on the way. Send someone to the mailbox (end of driveway, the road they will be arriving on, etc) to flag down the ambulance/police/FD when they show up.
Please let me get more info as quickly and clearly as possible.
Then start asking questions again.........



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Just listening to that call made me mental - Rock was right to go off on this idiot.

Both callers said he looks dead on a number of different occasions, then this dolt operator proceeds to ask the caller after wasting a good 5 minutes, if the victim appears to be "awake."

Heaven forbid someone was lying their dying. She should be fired for incompetence.
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I heard the oper. say I will send an ambulance about the 2nd/3rd time he asked for one. Not an easy job and should have been trained to say, "An ambulance is on the way, now tell me as best you can what happened."
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Originally Posted by Alureing View Post
The 911 operator was a idiot.
I wonder if they roll the ambulance immediately or wait for the idiot operator to interrogate the caller like a numskull. It should have gone more like "ATV Accident - man down - might be dead" .. "what's your address? Ambulance is on it's way. Now, what is the condition of the injured? Is he breathing etc..." She eventually got to that part but not before wasting possibly precious time asking questions that could have been saved for after the ambulance was on the way.

You could hear the urgency in their voices and fighting with them was getting her nowhere.

ATV's can be so dangerous. Sad.
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We now all know Kid's address.

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