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Old 03-30-2016, 05:13 PM   #1
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Unhappy Arthroscopic Knee Surgery?

I have had a long time (~1 year) nagging knee injury but decided to bite the bullet and see the doc. X-rays reveal arthritis, I'm too young for that BS. Results of MRI reveal a tear of the medial meniscus that requires surgery.

The injury is not that bad, not like football injury bad. It's not like I can't walk, it's just uncomfortable. I've still been active, golfing, working out but icing knee frequently, and lots of ibuprofen. Seems to help.

Don't need surgery right away, but if the recovery time is quick, might get in there and get it over with. Just don't want to miss out on the good weather.

Anyone have same symptoms with same surgery? What was recovery time? What was the physical therapy time? Doc says in and out, same day, will be able to walk out but need cane for a few days. Then rest for next few weeks.

What's the deal? Thanks fellas.
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You will be up and around in a couple of days. Meds for sleeping the first couple of days. PT wasn't bad. Coming down steps is the toughest part. Put the bad leg down first
They test your good leg for strength and work to get the bad one to be at or the same in strength and range of motion. Easy peezy
The last surgery i was setting on the roof hammering shingles in a week - 10 days. Back to work in four wks. My job required me to walk on big ballast and uneven terrain because i was always re-railng railroad cars.
I have had both knees done over the years. Don't put it off. It will only get worse to the point while your walking your knee will give out.
Therapy was (if i remember) three days a week for an hour or so for a couple of weeks
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Old 03-30-2016, 05:30 PM   #3
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I had this or something close to this when I was ~16. It wasn't bad. Crutches for a week, PT for 4-6 weeks if I remember correctly. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again if needed. I got into a friendly fight with my cousin about 3 weeks after the surgery and ended up running fast after him with no ill effects.
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I have had a long time (~1 year) nagging knee injury but decided to bite the bullet and see the doc. X-rays reveal arthritis, I'm too young for that BS. Results of MRI reveal a tear of the medial meniscus that requires surgery.

The injury is not that bad, not like football injury bad. It's not like I can't walk, it's just uncomfortable. I've still been active, golfing, working out but icing knee frequently, and lots of ibuprofen. Seems to help.

Don't need surgery right away, but if the recovery time is quick, might get in there and get it over with. Just don't want to miss out on the good weather.

Anyone have same symptoms with same surgery? What was recovery time? What was the physical therapy time? Doc says in and out, same day, will be able to walk out but need cane for a few days. Then rest for next few weeks.

What's the deal? Thanks fellas.
I had some torn cartilage removed about 7 years ago. 4 holes and 40 minutes later I was done. I was in recovery for about 90 minutes and went home. Was sore for 4-5 days and back to normal in about 4 weeks. I can tell you this.........I had my rip hip replaced 8 days ago and getting the knee done was like a bug bite compared to the shit I'm going thru with my hip

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Old 03-30-2016, 06:10 PM   #5
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I had my torn meniscus's repaired on Jan 13, and back to work 5 days later.
PT was very beneficial, went six times before I saw how much that was costing me, so they sent me home with a printout of the exercise plan.
Two months later, it's almost pain free, and I'm walking without a limp.

Between now and when you get it done, Aleve (naperson sodium NSAI) is your friend.
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Couple times. Walked in, walked out. No sweat. Best wishes its as easy for you!
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Whatever you do do not agree to a "femoral block". I had one 3 years ago which damaged my femoral nerve. I now have no use of my quad, as in I can't move my leg from a bend position to straight. No steps, no running, squatting unless I can use only my other leg to hold me.
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Results proportional to arthritis ...

No arthritis great, moderate narrowing may not be so good, severe narrowing not worth it
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Old 03-30-2016, 07:40 PM   #9
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How old are you? How bad is your arthritis? If the meniscal tear is flapping around and causing mechanical pain then a scope will help you a bit. The scope will not prevent progression of arthritis or do anything magical to help with your arthritis that you already have. I usually see people walking in a week post op with minimal pain and back to their usual daily pattern.
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Had knee pain for much of last year. Got better, but then worse early this year plus swelling.
Went to the ortho doc who did my shoulder surgery as his 3 specialties are hips, shoulders, and knees. He immediately said meniscus tear. I asked how long surgery took, and recovery time. Walking a day later without crutches, 4 weeks to be back to 100%.
I said doc - I got a marlin tourney to fish.......He asked when - Memorial week. "you'll be fine by then."

Xray was fine - no arthritis. MRI - not so much. Posterier meniscal tear, plus some other damage I can't pronounce. The pain was less from the tome of original visit to a couple weeks later when I got the MRI results. Doc said we do surgery for pain. If it's not hurting that much, no reason for surgery because he can't make me happy. We decided on a course of high NSAIDs for a few weeks, and return visit if pain gets worse.

This surgeon ran track in high school and college and has had 6 knee surgeries himself. He told me knee surgery for meniscus tears was the #1 surgery for men in the US. He does 300 knee, 300 shoulder, and 200 hip surgeries per year, with 100 of the knee surgeries being torn meniscus. He does knees like Jiffy Lube changes oil.

I am only delaying the knife though. Fall after fishing slows down if I can make it that long, he'll get that knee. Mine isn't a full blown bucket tear, so I am lucky. He did say I could do more damage if not careful.
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I have had a long time (~1 year) nagging knee injury but decided to bite the bullet and see the doc. X-rays reveal arthritis, I'm too young for that BS. Results of MRI reveal a tear of the medial meniscus that requires surgery.

The injury is not that bad, not like football injury bad. It's not like I can't walk, it's just uncomfortable. I've still been active, golfing, working out but icing knee frequently, and lots of ibuprofen. Seems to help.

Don't need surgery right away, but if the recovery time is quick, might get in there and get it over with. Just don't want to miss out on the good weather.

Anyone have same symptoms with same surgery? What was recovery time? What was the physical therapy time? Doc says in and out, same day, will be able to walk out but need cane for a few days. Then rest for next few weeks.

What's the deal? Thanks fellas.

Was around 32 yo, had a snowboarding accident. Torn Meniscus, severred ACL. Had the surgery to reattach ACL, and they removed 40 % of Meniscus. Both before during and after the IB did not help me at all, I Def am glad they gave me the good stuff as it was quite painful leading up to surgery and couple days after surgery. After that I had decreasing amounts of pain for the PTL over the next month. Walking couple days after surgery, returning to 90% " regular " within a month. As someone else said to this days steps are hard on me, but going up not down. My knees have hurt with over use since the injury and still do 7 years later. At the time of surgery my Dr told me no signs of Arthritis but I could expect it in 5-7 years ( no idea how he could predict that but sure enough after 6 years my knee started bothering me more and more - I have not went back to have it looked at but I'm pretty sure that is what is happening. Also every since surgery me knee " clicks " when fully bended and that has increased as well. Bottom line is this - I am sure it is different for every person but my surgeon told me at the time I could expect a 100% recovery - as if it never happened. This was not the case for me. Yes, I did regain full use of it as far as strength, flexibility, etc but from time to time always had varying levels of pain, with it getting substantially worse last year or two. Good luck brother!
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My mom, 69, had a torn meniscus last year. The tear will not heal itself so Dr recommended surgery. She arrived at outpatient center at 6am and was back home by 8:45am. They want you to do repetitions of specific movements as soon as possible. She was only on crutches for day of surgery. She drove me to the airport 2 days later and was on PT for about 1 month (3-4 times a week). She did have some sore days for first two weeks but nothing that kept her off her feet totally. She lives alone and is an on the go type of person.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:07 AM   #13
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Some of the answer will depend on whether or not the knee pain is affecting your gait. If you are currently walking differently than you used to, favoring your bad knee, then you should get the surgery sooner rather than later.
The change in gait affects bother your leg strength and can also result in back issues as it changes your structural alignment. Having said that, after three knee surgeries all of which were designed to restore the structural integrity of the joint, the repair of the meniscus is easy-peasey, with a very quick rehab period post surgery.
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I'm not a Doctor, but I have had 9 operations on my right knee alone.

The statement above about pain vs mechanical blockage is dead on. My problems started with a torn meniscus at age 15. Caused pain but several Docs said take something for the pain and come back when it locks up. At the time (1968) they told my parents they were seeing many guys that had knee surgeries during WWII showing up with arthritis and that removing meniscus would cause joint damage and arthritis in the joint. There would be a good chance I would be in a wheel chair at 55.

My knee did mechanically lock and I had my first operation. A simple meniscus removal. Back then You were in a cast for 6 weeks and on crutches for 12 weeks with a 4" incision.

Over the years the surgeries continued and the technology improved greatly. Now you see a torn meniscus during a game on Sunday and the guy is back at practice at the end of the week. I understand now they remove only the offending torn parts and leave the majority of the meniscus.
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I went through a ton of these before finally having both knees replaced. IMO the recovery is based on several factors, the most important is the skill level of your ortho, the second is how bad the overall condition of the knee is and the final one is the strength of your leg. Good luck with the procedure and ice is your friend. Since my guess is this will be an on-going issue I would recommend you buy a knee icing machine; you can get a good one for about $150.00 or less and they work great.
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I have had a long time (~1 year) nagging knee injury but decided to bite the bullet and see the doc. X-rays reveal arthritis, I'm too young for that BS. Results of MRI reveal a tear of the medial meniscus that requires surgery.

The injury is not that bad, not like football injury bad. It's not like I can't walk, it's just uncomfortable. I've still been active, golfing, working out but icing knee frequently, and lots of ibuprofen. Seems to help.

Don't need surgery right away, but if the recovery time is quick, might get in there and get it over with. Just don't want to miss out on the good weather.

Anyone have same symptoms with same surgery? What was recovery time? What was the physical therapy time? Doc says in and out, same day, will be able to walk out but need cane for a few days. Then rest for next few weeks.

What's the deal? Thanks fellas.
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Had it done last January (exact same issues and exact same surgery) and my knee blew back up in April and has not gone down. I've been through the ringer with it.

My advise is to get a second and third opinion before doing the surgery. Pick the Dr. that you trust the most of the three.

If you can get by with two cortisone shots a year, milk it as long as you can.
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Had my right knee meniscus repaired 2 years ago, last year had 2 bone chips taken out of the same knee.
Do the PT religiously, really helps.
Informed I have severe arthritis, cortisone does not last.
Just had Gel One lubricant put in both knees before my month long ski trip, did well. Time will tell how long it lasts. Minor pain after a long day in the boat tower, wear knee braces to help with the rocking and rolling.
As has been said Aleve is your friend.
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Did mine 3 years ago (42 yrs old then). Same thing, meniscus tear with additional damage behind knee cap. Missed two days of work (I drive a desk, so not bad). The doctor denied me crutches, saying they wanted me walking as best I could ASAP.
Could not recommend good PT enough. How else could I get young pretty girls to put their hands on me without my wife getting pissed? Seriously though, it worked and I was basically walking normal with no limp or pain within 2 weeks.
I played golf three weeks after the surgery. I used a neoprene sleeve for a couple of weeks for comfort and stability, but decided I really didn't need it.
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There're guys comparing vastly different surgeries here. So be careful who you listen to. The "back to normal in 4 weeks" guy just had a scope and debridement. Huge difference from a full blown meniscal repair.
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