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Old 03-08-2016, 08:00 AM
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Default Nuclear power plant leaking into Biscayne Bay, FL

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e64667452.html

It appears that a study has revealed the Turkey Point nuclear power plant has been using fresh drinking water to cool the canals it uses to cool the reactors and has also been leaking into the bay.

The tritium in the water (radioactive hydrogen) is 215 times higher than normal but no reports yet on impacts to people or wildlife. I'm not a nuclear scientist so I don't know how big of a deal that is but I know it's hard as hell to catch anything but small cudas and small mangrove snappers there.

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This is sad. Nuclear power is our best option but due to an ill informed population we are stuck with aging plants using 1950's and 60s designs that are failing.
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Old 03-08-2016, 08:20 AM
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This is sad. Nuclear power is our best option but due to an ill informed population we are stuck with aging plants using 1950's and 60s designs that are failing.
IMHO it won't be our best option until someone comes up with a safe long term viable solution of dealing with the waste.
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Originally Posted by agallant80 View Post
This is sad. Nuclear power is our best option but due to an ill informed population we are stuck with aging plants using 1950's and 60s designs that are failing.
Nuke power is very expensive to generate. At some facilities twice as much a coal fired plants.
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All of the problems with fission nuclear reactors are political. Even the French can make it work and their total cost per KW ( $.05) is way less than ours ($.30).

But speaking of energy cost; free solar energy costs $.50/KW to produce, ten times the French cost of nuclear energy.
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India has been killing it with solar farms; do not see why we don't do it as well. Had a friend put some panels on his house; cut his bill severely.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/07/tech...r-energy-coal/
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India has been killing it with solar farms; do not see why we don't do it as well. Had a friend put some panels on his house; cut his bill severely.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/07/tech...r-energy-coal/
He probably got tax break that made installing panels on his home affordable.
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Originally Posted by Bamby View Post
IMHO it won't be our best option until someone comes up with a safe long term viable solution of dealing with the waste.
The reason the waste issue is difficult is 100% politcal. Technically it is easy using a few different strategies.

Ex nuke engr.

Heck, more radioactive isotopes are emitted from coal plants than from nukes.

And the new design nuke plants would have much enhanced safety and economy.

Just need some politicians with some balls to pave the way.

It truly is the best way to make base load power. As simple as that.
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According to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, tritium radiation is very weak, "cannot travel far through the air and cannot penetrate the skin".
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Originally Posted by bayfisher92 View Post
India has been killing it with solar farms; do not see why we don't do it as well. Had a friend put some panels on his house; cut his bill severely.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/07/tech...r-energy-coal/
I'm don't believe when they are referring to solar power in India as solar panels, they are most likely talking about concentrated solar power, which is much different.
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Originally Posted by agallant80 View Post
This is sad. Nuclear power is our best option but due to an ill informed population we are stuck with aging plants using 1950's and 60s designs that are failing.
Also you fail to understand that even with the latest technology corners will be cut and leaks and disasters will happen. It always does.
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According to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, tritium radiation is very weak, "cannot travel far through the air and cannot penetrate the skin".
Very weak beta particle emitter. That means it sheds an electron when it decays. Not high risk stuff. And usually found in very low concentrations.
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India has been killing it with solar farms; do not see why we don't do it as well. Had a friend put some panels on his house; cut his bill severely.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/07/tech...r-energy-coal/
Because they only work 50% of the time.
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Who would ever imagine that solar power could be a viable option in the Sunshine State?
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Who would ever imagine that solar power could be a viable option in the Sunshine State?

It would be even better if it was economically viable. And subsidies don't make things less expensive.
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IMHO it won't be our best option until someone comes up with a safe long term viable solution of dealing with the waste.
There is a viable solution for nuclear waste, it's called Alabama
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The reason the waste issue is difficult is 100% politcal. Technically it is easy using a few different strategies.

Ex nuke engr.

"Heck, more radioactive isotopes are emitted from coal plants than from nukes.

And the new design nuke plants would have much enhanced safety and economy.

Just need some politicians with some balls to pave the way.

It truly is the best way to make base load power. As simple as that."

WHY CAN'T WE USE CLEAN COAL? SCRUBBERS WORK?

COAL IS THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MAKE ELECTRIC IF YOU TAKE THE POLITICS OUT.

IF WE SPENT THE WASTED GREEN ENERGY LOANS ON CLEAN COAL WE COULD WE COULD BRING STEEL, ALUMINUM AND ANY OTHER INDUSTRIES REQUIRING HUGE AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY.
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CORNDOG

The reason the waste issue is difficult is 100% politcal. Technically it is easy using a few different strategies.

Ex nuke engr.

"Heck, more radioactive isotopes are emitted from coal plants than from nukes.

And the new design nuke plants would have much enhanced safety and economy.

Just need some politicians with some balls to pave the way.

It truly is the best way to make base load power. As simple as that."

WHY CAN'T WE USE CLEAN COAL? SCRUBBERS WORK?

COAL IS THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MAKE ELECTRIC IF YOU TAKE THE POLITICS OUT.

IF WE SPENT THE WASTED GREEN ENERGY LOANS ON CLEAN COAL WE COULD WE COULD BRING STEEL, ALUMINUM AND ANY OTHER INDUSTRIES REQUIRING HUGE AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY.
I'm just going to leave this here... scrubbers won't solve this issue, and "clean coal" doesn't exist.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Coal_waste
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Originally Posted by Sneaky Snooker View Post
There is a viable solution for nuclear waste, it's called Alabama
Eff that, it's called the middle east.

Several of my colleagues are involved with the cooling water situation at this facility and there has been a lot going on for a number of years now about this. The issues should not be overhyped nor ignored. Hyper saline conditions affecting the nearby surface water bodies and aquifer as well as the warming of the canals does need to be addressed and they have pilot projects completed and ongoing to use other systems and methodologies for sourcing the cooling water and disposal of the 'waste'. Things will change, media will hype it and political entities in the general area will play huge role . I wouldn't be concerned about the 'radioactive' tritium in effect for now or expect to see any three headed nurse sharks, but there are some big ass crocs in those canals. A municipal well field salting up is a more realistic possibility.
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