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Old 03-04-2016, 11:04 AM
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without going into all the gory details, this is my situation. I have had several AC units replaced recently. we applied for and received the necessary building permits. They are taped to my front window as required..

Now my problem, getting the inspector here. we make appointments, call, get responses that they are busy etc. I take off an entire day to be here , but makes no difference, they don't give a shit. they don't show up, they don't call.

So my question is, what happens if I do not get the final inspection. I paid for the permit, I used licensed contractors, everything is working fine, I have been in the house for over 12 years so they are not going to take back my CO.

what if I say fuck it and do nothing., ???? anyone know . rant on / rant off.. question asked
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:18 AM
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Probably nothing will happen until you go to sell the house
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by devildogdad View Post
without going into all the gory details, this is my situation. I have had several AC units replaced recently. we applied for and received the necessary building permits. They are taped to my front window as required..

Now my problem, getting the inspector here. we make appointments, call, get responses that they are busy etc. I take off an entire day to be here , but makes no difference, they don't give a shit. they don't show up, they don't call.

So my question is, what happens if I do not get the final inspection. I paid for the permit, I used licensed contractors, everything is working fine, I have been in the house for over 12 years so they are not going to take back my CO.

what if I say fuck it and do nothing., ???? anyone know . rant on / rant off.. question asked
What would happen? Nothing... You already live in the house, you just replaced these units. You followed the law,getting permits, they will eventually come by or not. I wouldnt worry to much about it. Keep your documentation showing when and how many times you called for inspection etc so if an issue might arise you can show you attempted to get the final. Replacing of existing units are different on the priority scale with inspectors, new work is different. The township got what they really want, the MONEY for the permit.
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:41 AM
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Nothing.. it will show that you had the permit for the job.. I builta rather large "storage" building in my backyard.. got a permit and was told to call when I had the walls erected.. I called and the inspector said " I don't have to time look at it.. go ahead and finish it and I'll look at it later"
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:52 AM
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Around here, if no inspection is made within 6 mos. the inspections department will be calling to find out what's going on and whether the job is finished. Then they would try and schedule an inspection.
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:58 AM
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I've never done any permitting in Tampa but have done plenty of permitting in Lee and Charlotte County.
Lee county is great to work with but Charlotte is a 100% nightmare and always has been.

If I were you I would politely call the top building official and document the situation. To me, it's not worth it to try to "outsmart" the county. Yeah, it's a PITA but why wait for this to come back to bite you someday...and it will. Don't know how or when but it surely will somehow.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:04 PM
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Typically permit will expire and you have to pay to reinstate it. Have to final it at some point.
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Inspectors are getting pissed off because they feel they are having to do to much work, so they try and use the excuse that they can't get to something, then they can tell their superiors they need more help. Inspectors around here work about 4 hrs a day it seems and bitch about that. Having said that, every county or city I have built in has a time stipulation for which the inspectors have to complete the inspection, usually 48 hrs. I would be calling his/her boss
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:27 PM
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Screw them. One call was enough.
We built an entire country with out inspectors.
I go through it all the time, I always tell them
Politely, "I don't need an inspector with
Zero experience telling me how to do my job"

Most of them are decent, I just can't stand when I
Have to teach them.
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I got a call from my AC company about 4 years after they installed a new unit for me, saying the inspector needed to come by and sign off on the job. In those four years I guess the code changed, so they had to replace the type of pad under by my compressor in order to pass the inspection.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:49 PM
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Send an email to the building official outlining the lack of response. The inspector will get chewed out and nitpick your project or be apologetic and sign off quickly. All the permitting systems are electronic and they will periodically run a report of old ones and yours will eventually get some attention. Some expire if there are no inspections within so many days which means that you would need to pay for and pull a new permit. Document via email is the best bet.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:55 PM
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F em.

you held up your end of the bargain and attempted to get a final inspection.

if they dont have the time to do their job that is not your problem.
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:20 PM
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They may not even inspect these units. It is really just about the money and they have that.

Go on the web site and verify they got the request for the inspection, take a screen shot and move on.
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:30 PM
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It basically is a big joke. I'm about to start another large project and will be doing engineer inspections. I could go on for hours with stories but don't want to bore you.
Then you have the inspector failing things that passed in plan review but that's a whole new topic.
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Old 03-05-2016, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Garage Dog View Post
If I were you I would politely call the top building official and document the situation. To me, it's not worth it to try to "outsmart" the county. Yeah, it's a PITA but why wait for this to come back to bite you someday...and it will. Don't know how or when but it surely will somehow.
This^^^^ When/if you sell it will show up in a title search, and you'll have to deal with it. And you'll hope the original contractor is around!
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Old 03-05-2016, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jus Teasin View Post
This^^^^ When/if you sell it will show up in a title search, and you'll have to deal with it. And you'll hope the original contractor is around!
Bingo!

BTW, why are YOU calling for the inspection..you're not an a/c contractor. The a/c contractor should be calling for their own permit if THEY pulled it, which I'm sure they did if it's commercial or multiple units. This may be the problem.
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Old 03-05-2016, 07:11 AM
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Just document, in any way possible, that you set up the appointments, etc. email is the best.

But this will never be an issue or ever come up again.

If you were adding Sq' or something else major might come back down the road but replacement work, never.

Good luck
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Old 03-05-2016, 07:20 AM
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I know that when I built my home years ago, I was the General Contractor. I called for an inspection and was told the BI was on vacation for two weeks. The BI from a neighboring town was covering for him. So I called him up to inspect.
He informed me that he could not do the inspection for two weeks as he was backed up. He also told me that my township had 48 hours to respond to an inspection request. If they did not respond I could continue work with out inspection. I had no choice but to keep going. When I called for the next inspection, he signed off on both.
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Old 03-05-2016, 07:31 AM
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In Florida, as GC you call in the inspections for work YOU are performing, but electric, plumbing, HVAC, and roofing are trades not covered under your license. These trades must be performed by, and called in by, the sub who subcontracted them.

There is something in the Florida code about timely inspections, but I*don't remember what it is.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
In Florida, as GC you call in the inspections for work YOU are performing, but electric, plumbing, HVAC, and roofing are trades not covered under your license. These trades must be performed by, and called in by, the sub who subcontracted them.

There is something in the Florida code about timely inspections, but I*don't remember what it is.
Agree Bill, the inspectors have some legal time limits to adhere too.
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