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Old 03-04-2016, 12:49 AM
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I will try and keep this as short as possible. I have never been around drugs much growing up so I am not familiar with them. We are both mid-forties. He was in the Army and was Airborne. He has always had a lot of issues with his back due to his parachuting. He never used the VA until about 6 months ago and has just lived with it. Before this and for as long as I can remember he was using hydrocodone from a pain management doctor. He was abusing the pills also. About a year ago he decided he was going to get of the pills and decided to replace it with pot. It seems to me that he can't go a single day without getting stoned in the evenings. Sometimes it's just a puff or two but most days he gets stoned to the bone. His wife has confided in my wife that he comes to bed most nights really high and I believe she is fed up. They have had problems in the past and I think when there youngest son leaves home she may as well. He is also a functioning alcoholic. 12 pack every day and more a lot of days. He keeps himself in good physical shape and owns a successful electrical contracting business. He is a manly, macho type and will not hear of "Having a Problem" I feel like my wife and I played a huge role in saving their marriage before as we had been down that road and counseled them quite a bit. It appears to me that he is very dependent on pot now and I am not sure how to try and help him.

The old saying about the first step is to admit you have a problem definitely plays into this situation. He thinks it harmless so I'm not sure what I can do

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I'm not sure you are meant to be doing anything. Am I missing something?
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I'm not sure you are meant to be doing anything. Am I missing something?
just another day in Johnny Dreamer land..??
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I have friends that smoke weed daily. Some all day long and I would rather that than have them be alcoholics but it sounds like this guy has both going on. Perhaps they are better off divorced for the wife's sanity.Then he can live his life like he wants and so can she.
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Better the pot than Oxecontin or some of the other serious drugs. My dad had a bad back and was probably one of the first to use the Oxecontin family of drugs. He was very functional but it took it's toll. I would rather see this guy smoking weed than drinking or on pills. I hope the best for him and his wife.
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He is very functional and a nice drunk, but over the past few months it seems like he lives to smoke pot. He does not seemed too concerned about much else.

We are going on a week long fishing trip in a couple of months that we will have to fly commercially to get to and I don't think he will be able to go a week without. He has already hinted around about trying to get it where we are going. Its legal there so I guess its not that big of a deal. It just seems to be his priority.
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All us sparkies are wasted..
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I have friends that smoke weed daily. Some all day long and I would rather that than have them be alcoholics but it sounds like this guy has both going on. Perhaps they are better off divorced for the wife's sanity.Then he can live his life like he wants and so can she.
Alcohol causes many diseases that can kill you, weed not so much....
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I think the best you can do is set good example. The more you hound him about it the more it will push him away.
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I guess he doesn't drug test the employees at his company.
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It's called dual addiction. Unless he wants to help himself, I doubt if you can convince him.
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It's called dual addiction. Unless he wants to help himself, I doubt if you can convince him.
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It's called dual addiction. Unless he wants to help himself, I doubt if you can convince him.
So true. Pot over alcohol for sure. At any rate, withdrawal is the pits.
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You three should quit plottin against him behind his back.
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I'd have one talk with him about it and that's all, but I generally stay out of other people's business when/since they are both adults.

A 12 pack a day and stays in shape too.

That's pretty good.

Pot is no less or more of a drug than alcohol or cigarettes, for the most part and probably the least hurtful in many ways.
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This thread immediately descended into discussion of how weed is better than other drugs and alcohol, instead of trying to help a friend with addiction problems. Real depth of character there guys.
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Have a chat with him. Obviously don't mention that his wife has confided in yours but ask how things are at home. Tell him you've noticed a bit of a change. Something like "I know the stuffs not addictive, but since you've been using it, you just seem a little 'off', everything good? Wife nagging at all?"

Something along those lines. After that, there's nothing more you can do. It's his life. Maybe he doesn't see/think he's changed course and your conversation will light the bulb for him. Or maybe he does and that's what he wants.
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This thread immediately descended into discussion of how weed is better than other drugs and alcohol, instead of trying to help a friend with addiction problems. Real depth of character there guys.
There is some truth to it. My doctor keeps telling me how bad alcohol is for the body, but that's legal. Big pharma wants to keep moving product using the giant political lobby they have amassed. That crap is poison. Weed helped my chronic back pain. 58% of Floridians think medical weed should be legal.
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At my house a unhappy wife is a unhappy life, I would put it down especially when I was crawling in bed. That means no sex life and what type of life is that???
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There is some truth to it. My doctor keeps telling me how bad alcohol is for the body, but that's legal. Big pharma wants to keep moving product using the giant political lobby they have amassed. That crap is poison. Weed helped my chronic back pain. 58% of Floridians think medical weed should be legal.
AND the dude is in physical pain. I don't blame him from switching. This is a model for legitimate use.
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