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Old 02-09-2016, 02:34 PM
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Was opening a box and pulled out my Benchmade Stryker to cut the tape and pushed the button and opened the knife. The guy with me asked me why I was carrying a switchblade. I said because it's legal and I like it. We pulled up the link below and it seems that auto knife laws are all over the place. For instance, here in NC we can legally own one legally carry but it can't be concealed. I carry mine clipped to my pant pocket sticking about 1/2".

But, in looking at the chart in the below link, if I were to drive the wife to Michigan I'd be illegal in Virginia, legal if not concealed in WV, same with Ohio, and totally illegal in Michigan. Some states base it on length.

Couple questions. Who carries if it is legal in your state? If legal to carry and illegal to conceal, how do you carry? Question for LE in the "illegal to conceal" states. Would you consider it concealed if a portion of it is sticking out of my pocket? I have spoken with several knife dealers here and they say they have never seen anybody charged even carrying concealed unless it was a 'pile on' charge.

And, before anybody says it, I know that there are non-autos that can be opened as quickly as an auto and that solves the problem but that's not my question.

http://weaponlaws.wikidot.com/us-switchblade-laws
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spring assist in Maryland. I used to have a parachute rigging knife , it was automatic crappy blade though
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
they say they have never seen anybody charged even carrying concealed unless it was a 'pile on' charge.
I think that's it right there.

Just like automobile "window tint" law

If the popo decide they NEED a reason to go after you, they'll use it

otherwise, they pay no attention whatsoever.....
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I carry a fully automatic electric carving knife and it's suppressed so I decided to setup a trust when I applied for the nfa registration. The CLEO was not happy about having someone concealed carrying a fully automatic suppressed electric carving knife but eventually the Sheriff relented and signed the form 4. The grp 31 AGM battery and inverter are a bitch to lug around in my backpack.



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I'm in NC also and I collect auto open knives. But this is the FIRST place I've ever seen that says it's legal to open carry, so, just how do you open carry an auto knife?
Clipped to your pocket, the knife is still concealed in your pocket.
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I'm in NC also and I collect auto open knives. But this is the FIRST place I've ever seen that says it's legal to open carry, so, just how do you open carry an auto knife?
Clipped to your pocket, the knife is still concealed in your pocket.
I have mine clipped to my back left pocket so about 1/2" of it sticks out. Not sure if that is considered "concealed" or not.

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Legal in MD as long as it's not concealed
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Knife laws are actually getting better thanks to folks like the Knife Rights people, but be careful. In some jurisdictions, "concealed" means "concealed in part or whole/in any manner" just like "visible" in New York means "even if only the clip is showing. Florida is about the only place where I trust the "if any of it is showing, you can carry anything" theory and even then, i know I would be hassled in place like Broward of Palm Beach if I was carry a bowie unconcealed.
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I normally carry a microtech OTF knife in my front right pocket...buy don't carry out of state except SC, if I fly I'm afraid tsa might find it and keep it ...i dont worry to much about having it on me
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I've got an automatic knife. It's handy and I like it. It's legal here in Florida and I have a CCW.
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Originally Posted by PXMAN View Post
I've got an automatic knife. It's handy and I like it. It's legal here in Florida and I have a CCW.
That's one reason I posted this was to get some feedback about y'all's state laws. The state laws are all over the place. Illegal to own period. Legal to own, legal to carry, illegal to conceal. Legal to own but illegal to carry at all. Legal to own, legal to carry, even concealed. Florida is legal to own, legal to carry open, but illegal to carry concealed unless you have a carry permit. I think the laws are antiquated. There are states (like NC and MD) where you can carry a pistol in your pocket with a carry permit but can't carry an auto knife.
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If I read the article correctly, I can own and conceal carry a switchblade with my GA weapons permit.

Now that that is cleared up, which knife should I buy?
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
That's one reason I posted this was to get some feedback about y'all's state laws. The state laws are all over the place. Illegal to own period. Legal to own, legal to carry, illegal to conceal. Legal to own but illegal to carry at all. Legal to own, legal to carry, even concealed. Florida is legal to own, legal to carry open, but illegal to carry concealed unless you have a carry permit. I think the laws are antiquated. There are states (like NC and MD) where you can carry a pistol in your pocket with a carry permit but can't carry an auto knife.
Apparently transporting across state lines is a major nono, from the FL standpoint anyway, it may be federal.

I would never have thought about it.
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Used to carry an auto knife but prefer an assisted opening knife now. Kershaw blades are very nice and are my top choice...
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Now that that is cleared up, which knife should I buy?
If you want to be cool in more ways than one, get a Benchmade Infidel.
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Shaq, I have the same interest and question(s) and still am unsure. I asked 2 NC Wildlife officers at the boat show, but they said it was not there area, and that as long as it was not causing a problem, they would not care one way or the other.

NC statutes - http://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/32344299...-gun-Laws.aspx

Bottom of page 11, section III

I spent way too much time trying to decipher it, but you may need an interpretation from a DA. And, it may depend on a LEO involved with you at a given time.

My reading of it was, it is illegal in NC to carry concealed, an auto-opening knife. Now I could argue that my knife clip hanging outside my pocket is known that I have a knife - ie. it is ubiquitous - but it may be a judgment call on the spot in the case of encounter with a LEO. And, then interpretation of a DA, then a judge.

I intend to ask a couple of my LEO friends next time I see them, but have decided it is not worth the hassle and potential unknown outcome to not carry one at this point.

They are definitely for sale at every gun show I go to. In Virginia (according to one knife salesman I talked to at the last show) they are illegal to even possess in VA., and subject to confiscation if observed. So this guy did not even put them out at VA. shows.

Still don't know the correct answer for NC.
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I think that's it right there.

Just like automobile "window tint" law

If the popo decide they NEED a reason to go after you, they'll use it

otherwise, they pay no attention whatsoever.....
Basically what the NC Wildlife officers I asked said.

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I have mine clipped to my back left pocket so about 1/2" of it sticks out. Not sure if that is considered "concealed" or not.
This is the question I want answered.
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It is rarely enforced anywhere, I confiscated a few when I was a LEO from punks that clearly didn't need to be carrying the but even those guys I never charged.. I would go out on a limb and say if an officer has charged you with a switchblade or spring assist or whatever other legal descriptions you can throw out you were probably doing something wrong in the first place to draw his attention and most likely you were charged with a more serious crime along with it...

I would kinda relate this to speeding, you know it is illegal to speed but most of you still do it... even of it is just a touch over the speed limit... So IMO if you are a responsible adult and can use a bit of common sense and want to carry one I say go for it and you will most likely be ok...
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My guess would be even if a small portion of the knife sticks out of your pocket it is technically considered concealed....
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I would go out on a limb and say if an officer has charged you with a switchblade or spring assist or whatever other legal descriptions you can throw out you were probably doing something wrong in the first place to draw his attention and most likely you were charged with a more serious crime along with it...
Never break 2 laws at the same time. You might get a break on a lesser infraction, but throw in a
2nd.... prolly not.
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