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Old 02-08-2006, 01:28 PM
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Perhaps this is not the place but since I think mostmembers and viewers are men it might not be a bad place to remind everyone to be screened for Prostate cancer. Prostate canceris more common in men then breast cancer is in women.The test is simple and can save your life! I watched both my father and father in-lawsuccumb to this disease. I myself was diagnosed when I was 47. It is not just a old mans disease. If caught early it is completely curable. Attached is a web site that is very informative.

http://www.ustoo.com/

Remember the testing takes a few minutes and can save your life for many more years of boating and fishing.
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:36 PM
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Good bunch of info there. It's easy to forget about things that can mean life or death in the every day hustle bustle.

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As a surviving member of my Uro's "kindergarten" class I wholeheartedly agree with the above. PSA testing caught mine early at 45. Treated with permenant seeded and holding steady below .1 PSA now for 40+ months.

Get tested annually over 45.
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:40 PM
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Good stuff well done you just might have save someones life today.

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I was diagnosed at age 58 from a routine blood test. Caught it early, had the seed implants and am doing fine. Don't put it off. I have friends who were not so fortunate.
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:57 PM
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Thank you for your response. I decided at 47 to have surgery. This May it will be five years and my PSA is <0.01. I consider myself forunate to have found it early but of course unluckly to have been diagnosed.
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Good info... but moved to Dockside Chat
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:03 PM
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Here's a bunch of fun facts for all you folks.
Just about 100% of men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer. For most men, it takes 15-20 years to actually kill you because its slow growing. Hence, if you get it at 80, something else will likely get you before you turn 100. However, it you get it at a young age (i.e. 50), it tends to be very aggressive, moving fast, and taking a person out in 3-5 years.
As for prevention, men who are castrated at a young age will never get prostate cancer. Men who do a partial chemical castration (such as taking Propecia for male pattern baldness) seem to have a 40% (?) reduction in their rate of developing prostate cancer (and have nicer hair), but if they do get prostate cancer despite taking propecia, it they have a 25% increased chance of having a much more agressive, fast moving type.
As far as that goes, in one study of men who had died in their 30's for some other causes, 1 in 3 were found to have tiny microscopic nests of cancerous cells in their prostate. The implication is that most of us probably have a few cancerous cells lingering around that, for what ever reason, don't seem to turn on until we get older. Incidentally, those cancerous cells were too small in number to raise the PSA, so the only way to find them would be to surgically remove the entire prostate (and shoot the whole fun of being a man-using the wee-wee to procreate).
For more fun, because prostate cancer is usually slow growing, it really doesn't respond well to chemotherapy.
The treatments now more or less consist of castration, either chemically or physically, or which buys some time, or radiation if its not too advanced. Of course, if you are lucky to get it found early, and have your prostate removed before it spreads, then you luck out if the surgeon gets it all.
In conclusion, there is no real point in worrying about any specific way in which a person may die, because in the long run, we are all dead. And, the best way to deal with that fact of life is to go to church on Sunday.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:48 PM
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Tom,

I just had to respond to your post. Blast away or forgive me for correcting.

Here's a bunch of fun facts for all you folks.
Just about 100% of men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer.

**Very true and well documented**

For most men, it takes 15-20 years to actually kill you because its slow growing.

**Not a bet that I would take**

Hence, if you get it at 80, something else will likely get you before you turn 100.

**True unless the PC has metastasized to bone or elsewhere**

However, it you get it at a young age (i.e. 50), it tends to be very aggressive, moving fast, and taking a person out in 3-5 years.

**Incorrect. Way too broad and general a statement. At a young age cancer activity can be predicted based on biopsy analysis as aggressive or non-aggressive and staged according to partin tables to establish an estimate of involvement and risk. I personally have outlived the 3-5 year span and hope to fish for at least another 20 years**

As for prevention, men who are castrated at a young age will never get prostate cancer. Men who do a partial chemical castration (such as taking Propecia for male pattern baldness) seem to have a 40% (?) reduction in their rate of developing prostate cancer (and have nicer hair), but if they do get prostate cancer despite taking propecia, it they have a 25% increased chance of having a much more agressive, fast moving type.

**PC feeds on testosterone. Except for the percentages ... this makes sense**

As far as that goes, in one study of men who had died in their 30's for some other causes, 1 in 3 were found to have tiny microscopic nests of cancerous cells in their prostate.

**See point #1. Not sure why a prostate would be thoroughly biopsied if some other cause of death was found?**

The implication is that most of us probably have a few cancerous cells lingering around that, for what ever reason, don't seem to turn on until we get older. Incidentally, those cancerous cells were too small in number to raise the PSA, so the only way to find them would be to surgically remove the entire prostate (and shoot the whole fun of being a man-using the wee-wee to procreate).

**Correct. Except that small portions are removed to biopsy. A proceedure which has no effect on the "wee-wee" or procreation long term**

For more fun, because prostate cancer is usually slow growing, it really doesn't respond well to chemotherapy.
The treatments now more or less consist of castration, either chemically or physically, or which buys some time, or radiation if its not too advanced.

**Actually very correct if PC has metastasized**

Of course, if you are lucky to get it found early, and have your prostate removed before it spreads, then you luck out if the surgeon gets it all.

**Many more options are avialable other than (removal) radical surgery. Some are showing better short-term results than surgery**

In conclusion, there is no real point in worrying about any specific way in which a person may die, because in the long run, we are all dead. And, the best way to deal with that fact of life is to go to church on Sunday.

**Fatalistic approach at best. Why not prevent the preventable and fish longer and heathier? New technology and techniques are gaining on prostate cancer. Religion aside .... don't worry but be proactive**

Get your PSA tested every year after 45 and know your number.



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Old 02-08-2006, 03:09 PM
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fnbeach - excellent response
It is too bad that this thread was moved to the dockside forum I think it would get more exposure in the boating forum and maybe help someone.
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:31 PM
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Thank BC.

Traffic is not so bad here. 150+ veiws at 3:15PM.

Lot's of mis-information floating around about PC.

Check out the seedpods board when it comes back on-line tomorrow @ www.prostatepointers.org/seedpods/

Lot's of good and current information from survivors about experiences and advances in treatment.

No sense being negative about a positive diagnosis.

PC is treatable and survivorable.
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:34 PM
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Thanks I will take a look tomorrow at seedpods.
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:41 PM
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Thanks for posting , Rick.. Too many of us suffer from the Ostrich Syndrome. Bottom line, get at minimum, yearly tests. I needed a reminder, going next week.

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Got ya both beat. 43 years old here. Had that bad boy jerked and am two months shy of 5 years. Won't get into details but no water problems and that bad boy looks like a baby's arm with his fist..............................never mind.

Funny story. I kept it really quiet just because I don't like attention, at least that kind. A couple of years ago a friend of mine found out about it and asked if I had my prostate removed. When I told him that I had he asked, "Was it cancer?".

"Nope, I just saw the problems that a lot of older people have with theirs and decided to have it pulled while I was still young and healthy". Here's your sign.
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Thanks blindchicken
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:27 PM
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My good friend just got diagnosed LATE, and it has now spread into his limph nodes (sp), he just had the seed thing implanted, and will start kemo in 4wks, Is this a death sentence for him?? hope he pulls thru! he wont talk about it, he is a very comic like personality, who is always happy.......what is the minmum age to get the test? im 37 should i be tested or no?
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Shag,

I made the same decision. I was diagnosed at 47 and at the time my surgeon said that I wasn't going to set any records. Here in just a few postings two other members were younger than I was. It proves that PC is not just a old man's disease. My surgeon has perform surgery on men as young as 35. My PSA was very low at the time (1.7) it was the physical exam that picked it up. There is not enough awareness and with little effort lives could be saved. Rick
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Victory 1,
Sorry to her about your friend. Your friend probably will get radiation treatment and hormone therapy. There has been much success with this treatment . Check out the web site www. USTOO.com
If you have a history of PC in your family I would start testing at 35. If there is no history start at 45.
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Victory1 - Sorry to hear about your friend. His comic personality will help him while he wrestle's with PC. His outcome depends on his outlook, his doctors skills and faith.

He is not by any means alone. Plenty of support available. He just needs to ask his Doc or RadOnc.

Shag ... too funny and great comeback.

Most insurance plans will recommend and pay for PSA testing only after 50. However it is a cheap test that can be added to normal bloodwork .... $15- $20. Even if out of pocket I would suggest at least a benchmark PSA test at 35 and 40 with annuals after age 45.
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Of course, yearly testing is a must, but remember,
if the Dr. has BOTH hands on your shoulders when
your getting the"digital", something is VERY wrong
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