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Old 01-15-2016, 08:21 AM
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I've seen Austal's huge facility in Mobile. I'm sure they employ thousands of people through their contracts to build these specialized ships for our Navy. That being said, I would think our government would want the profits kept in American companies hands??

I don't mean to be critical but just curious what others think , especially navy vets.

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Could be the Aussies already have the technology that otherwise would bp have to be developed and tested. Australia is an ally. Australia imports nearly $1.5 billion in weaponry. Us citizens are being employed. Not sure I understand the issue here.
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...maybe because military contracts with US companies are all about politics instead of about quality?

Austral supports the Mobile economy, and I'm sure it pays a ton in US corporate taxes. Where the after-tax profits go is small potatoes compared to the good it does for the Mobile area AND for the US Navy.

Quality first, something that the likes of Harry Reid, et al, will never agree to. See Boeing/Airbus competition, for an example.
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At least the ships aren't being built by the Chinese.

I was interested to see that the vessels are equipped with Italian-made electrical generators that are failing far short of the required design lifetime.
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Lowest bidder.

Makes you feel good to know your money is being spent wisely........
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Because the Aussie's already have the tech and engineering for aluminum high speed cats of this size used for ferries.

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It is far cheaper to buy something off the shelf and use it or to take something off the shelf, tweak it, then have the company manufacture the mil version for us, than it is to copy it and build it from scratch ourselves.

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I guess they "UNDER" bid everyone else!!
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
At least the ships aren't being built by the Chinese.

I was interested to see that the vessels are equipped with Italian-made electrical generators that are failing far short of the required design lifetime.
Not yet anyway.
Boeing is building a plant there right now for the 757's
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Because a certain group of politicians seem to continue to make it harder and harder to do business in the USA.

Seriously have you not seen this happen over the last like 30+ years? Nothing new.

If you want it to stop make it easier on businesses.
Well our shipyards aren't making it any easier on themselves when they keep messing up jobs that require rework or having radiological control violations causing work stops.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Not yet anyway.
Boeing is building a plant there right now for the 757's
Hmmm. Makes me glad I no longer fly around the world on business...Got out of that just in time.
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Because our politicians don't care about Americans!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austal

They seem to have a worldwide customer base.

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The Australians have (had?) the market cornered on aluminum cat ferries. The Army and Navy co-leased one or two that had actually been Australian ferries (at least one had been in active ferry service I think) to see how they worked out and decided we wanted some of our own. Austal already knew how to build them... I'm sure there is more to it, but thats the basic genesis of it.
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Much of its due to standards. All military hardware our country buys must meet strict DOD standards. Manufacturing here in the states is cost effective since many of the approved vendors are here. Also depending on requirements, some workers must be certified for a skill and/or have DOD clearance.
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American Unions??
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American Unions??
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I guess these issues wouldn't have anything to do with the 8 yards

mismanagement
the need for numerous improvements
enhanced process procedures,and more effective allocation of the workforce.
endless delays
constant design changes
management decisions

Austal's huge facility in Mobile is also union

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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
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I guess these issues wouldn't have anything to do with the 8 yards

mismanagement
the need for numerous improvements
enhanced process procedures,and more effective allocation of the workforce.
endless delays
constant design changes
management decisions
I thru it out there and you nailed it.
We have electric boat up here in CT..I know some of the pipe fitters and welders who work down there..bunch of strung out drunks and addicts...no thank you
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Originally Posted by Lprizman View Post
I thru it out there and you nailed it.
We have electric boat up here in CT..I know some of the pipe fitters and welders who work down there..bunch of strung out drunks and addicts...no thank you
What does that have to do with anything.
They aren't anywhere else in the workforce i guess. (drunks and addicts)
Your post suggests that the military went with a foreign company because of unions
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FYI, the Austal facility in Mobile, Al. is not Union. Don't ask me how I know. They employ over 5000 people in our community and have been a great company for their employees and the local chamber.
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