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Old 12-15-2015, 11:11 AM
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For a while I have been wanting to buy a late 90's Mercedes S500. I had one back in the day and I don't know what it is about the car but I love it. My concern is the thing being a money pit sucking the enjoyment of having something I enjoyed in my youth. Has anyone bought an older car like the one below? If so how was your experience.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Ben...m=172020419773
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:25 AM
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That is generally all I buy. Older High end vehicles BMW, Lincoln etc.

Repairs could be a little more costly then a Taurus but you are drive a vehicle that has already take a 50% value it and will retain the value a lot better.

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They are the MB dealers major source of Country Club payments. In all seroiusness they are over-engineered IMHO... but get it if you want it. You want to make sure it all works, A/C, brakes, etc. Parts are pricey.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:36 AM
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The w140 is a good series to buy. The rear hydraulic suspension can be costly if you have issues. The pneumatic lock pumps seem to go bad often.
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That leather looks soft.
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Paint on hood and deck lid doesn't appear to pop like it should. The owner protects the interior, but has it been kept outdoors? Have the PPI include rust inspection as well as paint condition.

Double pane windows, hands-free phone (back in the 90s), smooth power. W140 with the 5L engine were great cars.


ah, maybe somebody with a better memory can help me here, but seems that the bane of a W140 was the A/C condensor coil. If it needed replacing,...are you ready? ....the only way to get to it was from the inside of the car; removing the whole dashboard assembly. Back in the late 90s it was well over $3000 as I recall.
Don't know how you'd check the unit, but find an older wrench to do the PPI; preferably one that worked at a MB dealership. Indi wrenches would rarely touch the job.

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What happens when you need a part that is no longer available. I have seen it happen. The climate control on those sucked from day one.
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AC evaporator coil - out comes the dash. About 20 man hours of work.

Pre 97 or so, expect to change the engine wiring harness if not done so already. If the evap has been changed already, probably no future problems.

Stay with the 5 liter. You do not want the V12. Throttle bodies are expensive on V12 6 liter.

Most of this car's repairs and maintenance tasks have been well documented and for the most part are DIY.
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Originally Posted by avalonandl View Post
?.........................parts are extremely pricey.
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Depends on what parts and source.
Buy most of my benz parts from Gary Hurst at buyeuroparts. If he can't get the OEM Lemforder, Mann, Bosch, etc he gets a deal at the dealer and passes the savings along.
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This thread is great. Im a Toyota loyalist, but I've always wanted an e39 m5. Every time I get ready to buy I read the forums and YouTube videos and come to the conclusion that bmw's are scary to own. I'd love to have a nice German car as a third vehicle but even then I get the feeling it will break my will to own one. I like the look of those older Mercedes and I'm sure it's built like a tank. Good luck.
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Paint on hood and deck lid doesn't appear to pop like it should. The owner protects the interior, but has it been kept outdoors? Have the PPI include rust inspection as well as paint condition.

Double pane windows, hands-free phone (back in the 90s), smooth power. W140 with the 5L engine were great cars.


ah, maybe somebody with a better memory can help me here, but seems that the bane of a W140 was the A/C condensor coil. If it needed replacing,...are you ready? ....the only way to get to it was from the inside of the car; removing the whole dashboard assembly. Back in the late 90s it was well over $3000 as I recall.
Don't know how you'd check the unit, but find an older wrench to do the PPI; preferably one that worked at a MB dealership. Indi wrenches would rarely touch the job.
The condensor is usually in front of the radiator. Perhaps you are thinking of the evaporator coil.
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Barrett-Jackson sold one for $20K awhile back.

Then there's: 1999 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S500 - $5,500 in
Bowie, MD for sale with 155,000 miles.

One at a Charlotte, NC dealer for $12K w/135,000 miles

and one in CA for $12,500 w/ 145,000

One of the last Grand Edition in its original/ like new condition. One California owner with mostly High way miles before me. it has all its life as a southern California Car.No accidents , no paint, no dings, no scratches, paint still has its factory luster, as car has always been garaged and maintained by Mercedes specialist. All needed repairs and maintenance were done up to date. The car looks and smells like a new car. This car could be for collection or your pleasure. Its almost guaranteed you wouldn't find all original clean, Grand Edition like this.

BTW, nice car!

What's it's towing capacity?
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