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Old 12-03-2015, 05:54 PM
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I know this is a dumb problem to have. Some of ya'll are building garages and houses and I am in a quandary over crown molding. But what the heck do I do around this uneven corner? I searched google but obviously still don't have it figured out.
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I'd run the other side and shim what you have to it. Then paint. I think, hard to tell from pic.
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Is it 2 separate rooms? I would put a return there then restart on other wall will keep the lines cleaner
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Feather it out with joint compound.
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It is the entry way going into the living room. Here is another one for perspective.
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To do it right, you need to feather the ceiling with joint compound. As an alternative you could put a corner block in and run the crown up to the block. You would then have to put in matching blocks on all the corners.
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Originally Posted by bubblejunkie View Post
I'd run the other side and shim what you have to it. Then paint. I think, hard to tell from pic.
That sounds like it may be the quickest way to do it. Some filler and caulk and I would probably be the only one to notice.

Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.
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It is hard to tell from the picture and how it is oriented but I believe your crown is upside down. Could be looking at picture wrong though. If this is the case to do it correctly the first thing you need to do is have the larger vertical leg of the crown parallel to the wall not perpendicular.
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Wow! That was framed wrong. I see the only option is to turn the corner running to the gable and forget about going above the entry way. And your joints between lengths should be cheek cuts, not butts. IF I'm seeing your pictures correctly. Not great shots/lighting.
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well no THTer would live with a wall / ceiling that was less than 1/32" out of level or plum. The only answer is to tear down the house and rebuild.
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It just simply needs to be returned, since it appears the next room has a vaulted or angled ceiling and would not receive crown. And it does appear to be upside down. If you decide to pull it down and change it, go buy some mdf baseboard and turn it upside down and use it for a backer and do a 2pc crown. It looks way better and doesn't cost much
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I think I would build a false beam across that opening using some 1x6 and 1x4, then paint it to match and run the crown into that. Otherwise you could just return the crown back into the wall at the corner with a small piece of crown. Since you are painting, caulk is your friend! Just be sure you use the one that says "paintable"!

ETA: after you install beam, get some of that popcorn ceiling patch in the can and fix the kitchen side of the ceiling.
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Originally Posted by Small boat View Post
It is hard to tell from the picture and how it is oriented but I believe your crown is upside down. Could be looking at picture wrong though. If this is the case to do it correctly the first thing you need to do is have the larger vertical leg of the crown parallel to the wall not perpendicular.
You are seeing it right. Looking online it said there was a debate about the "right" way to do it. So I held it up and went with the way I liked best. Should I be tearing it down and starting over?

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Wow! That was framed wrong. I see the only option is to turn the corner running to the gable and forget about going above the entry way. And your joints between lengths should be cheek cuts, not butts. IF I'm seeing your pictures correctly. Not great shots/lighting.
I was planning on turning out and not going above the entry way. And yes I left that end as a butt because I was not sure what I was going to do from there. It's a small piece I can pop off and cut still.

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well no THTer would live with a wall / ceiling that was less than 1/32" out of level or plum. The only answer is to tear down the house and rebuild.
Man that will sure make the crown molding install easier!
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Originally Posted by twobyfour View Post
It just simply needs to be returned, since it appears the next room has a vaulted or angled ceiling and would not receive crown. And it does appear to be upside down. If you decide to pull it down and change it, go buy some mdf baseboard and turn it upside down and use it for a backer and do a 2pc crown. It looks way better and doesn't cost much
I was planning on doing the living room also. But I like that baseboard idea. Hell I may just start over.

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I think I would build a false beam across that opening using some 1x6 and 1x4, then paint it to match and run the crown into that. Otherwise you could just return the crown back into the wall at the corner with a small piece of crown. Since you are painting, caulk is your friend! Just be sure you use the one that says "paintable"!
Thanks for the options. I have the weekend off so I guess I will experiment.
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Originally Posted by twobyfour View Post
It just simply needs to be returned, since it appears the next room has a vaulted or angled ceiling and would not receive crown. And it does appear to be upside down.
This^^^^
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Originally Posted by twobyfour View Post
It just simply needs to be returned, since it appears the next room has a vaulted or angled ceiling and would not receive crown. And it does appear to be upside down. If you decide to pull it down and change it, go buy some mdf baseboard and turn it upside down and use it for a backer and do a 2pc crown. It looks way better and doesn't cost much
Totally agree with this. Either cut a return at the left side of the door and don't continue it into gabled room OR you can do a sconces and run it underneath the gable. And 2 piece with some baseboard flipped does look better. I attached dome pics of what I did in my family and dinning room. If you decide to continue it into the other room you'll need to flatten and fair that popcorn ceiling or you won't ever get a tight joint. And make sure you are scarfing straight joints and coping inside corners. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Small boat View Post
It is hard to tell from the picture and how it is oriented but I believe your crown is upside down. Could be looking at picture wrong though. If this is the case to do it correctly the first thing you need to do is have the larger vertical leg of the crown parallel to the wall not perpendicular.
Crown really has no up or down.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Crown really has no up or down.
Perhaps but I was taught that the most detailed edge goes toward the bottom. It will "work" either way but it's usually more visually appealing with the detail down.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Crown really has no up or down.
Bologna, bumps to the bottom on crown. Every finish carpenter in the world pukes when he sees upside down crown.

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