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Old 11-30-2015, 10:35 AM
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Default ARGHHHH... need help choosing Home theater receiver/Amp

So we are redoing our patio and one of the best things we did was to install a TV.
I got 4 of these arriving tomorrow
(Klipsch AW-650 6.5" Reference Outdoor Loudspeaker Pair) (Klipsch AW-650 6.5" Reference Outdoor Loudspeaker Pair)
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I thought I could use an old LG home theater amp/receiver I had laying around, but now I remember why we had i laying around!!!! because its a full blown piece of garbage!!!

So I need to get a new Amp/Receiver and I was planing to summon the audio experts in this forum for advice.

Needs:
- Speakers are rated 8 ohm 85 watts 340 watts peak so I need something with 100-110 watts per channel to handle that
- 5.1 will do it, although 7.1/7.2 may not be much more $.
- HDMI Video output to TV
- 3 or 4 HDMI inputs
- Ethernet port

Wants:
- AS MUCH NETWORK CONNECTIVITY AS POSSIBLE (Bluetooth, DLNA, and native streaming apps like pandora, tunein, youtube, netflix, etc)
- input selector in front panel is always a plus.
- no need for an out of this world sound quality, at the end of the day it is going to be outside, I was hopping to spend something like 300 to 600, but I could go a little higher for the right features

Would be nice to have:
- remote control over WiFi would be great, but would take RF too...
- WiFi
Open to suggestions... let me hear it...
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...77&ignorebbr=1
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I have 2 of those hooked up to a old NAD 200 watt amp with rotel preamp. Klipsch speakers really don't need that much power and their outdoor speakers don't have near the sound quality as their bookshelf or other indoor speakers so I wouldn't go crazy on the amp. Maybe a 200 watt medium priced amp like Yamaha would be a good match and cost you under $300.00.
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Beat me to it. Great power and sound for the money.
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Originally Posted by bikem View Post
Beat me to it. Great power and sound for the money.
Amazon has the same Onkyo for $329 and I noticed minor (at least to my knowledge) differences between the Onkyo and the Yamaha...
How's Onkyo compared to Yamaha in quality, reliability, sound, etc..?
Any particular reason to go with one over the other one? Onkyo features seems to be slightly better than the Yamaha but I do not know if worth $100 more...
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Last thing I owned Onkyo was a tape deck years ago so not sure what their receivers sound like these days but Yamaha receivers have good power and sound for the money.
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I picked this up about a month ago:
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I like the yamaha apps better, I have a fairly new onkyo in another room.
Has everything you are asking for, plus it has dual zone output, and your phone is a wifi remote.
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Have a look at the Pioneer VSX series. If all you need is the 5.1, the VSX-830 (actually 5.2) is only around $330. The VSX-1130 is 7.2 & $450.

I have an older version of the 1130. I think it was the 1022. It came with Pandora, and it looks like the 1130 has Spotify as well. Honestly, though, if I'm using it for music, I usually use the AirPlay feature, and use the app on my iPad or iPhone. There is also a relatively simple remote app, so your phone can be a WiFi remote. Newer versions add WiFi. Mine only has wired ethernet.
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Originally Posted by emudryj View Post
Amazon has the same Onkyo for $329 and I noticed minor (at least to my knowledge) differences between the Onkyo and the Yamaha...
How's Onkyo compared to Yamaha in quality, reliability, sound, etc..?
Any particular reason to go with one over the other one? Onkyo features seems to be slightly better than the Yamaha but I do not know if worth $100 more...
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I have the Onkyo TX-NR626 (prior year model), and I love it. There are plenty of connectivity options, bluetooth, "smart" aps like Pandora, XM, etc., and one thing most receivers don't have - a phono input for turntables. I've had mine for over a year and haven't had a moment's trouble with it. Highly recommended!
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Instead of getting a seven channel amp at 115 total watts which will only give you 28.75 watts a speaker with four hooked up look a two channel receiver at 100 watt per channel would give you 50 watts at each speaker and probably a better sound as its made for for music not TV. something like this http://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RN30...ha-R-N301.html
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onkyo has gone down in the last couple of years, they use weak electronic parts and their failures have gone up. I had one 2 years and the display went out.
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Is Sony a bad one?
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Onkyo is junk.
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Originally Posted by emudryj View Post
Amazon has the same Onkyo for $329 and I noticed minor (at least to my knowledge) differences between the Onkyo and the Yamaha...
How's Onkyo compared to Yamaha in quality, reliability, sound, etc..?
Any particular reason to go with one over the other one? Onkyo features seems to be slightly better than the Yamaha but I do not know if worth $100 more...
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Read the reviews. Look up onkyo receiver catches fire. I have had 1.Never again. Just go with Emotiva like me.
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Originally Posted by bikem View Post
Instead of getting a seven channel amp at 115 total watts which will only give you 28.75 watts a speaker with four hooked up look a two channel receiver at 100 watt per channel would give you 50 watts at each speaker and probably a better sound as its made for for music not TV. something like this http://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RN30...ha-R-N301.html
What decent 7 channel amp has 115 total watts? For example the Yamaha is 105 watts per channel for 7 channels.
Rated Output Power (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9% THD, 2 ch driven)
Front L/R:105 W + 105 W
Center: 105 W
Surround L/R:105 W + 105 W
Surround Back L/R: 105 W + 105 W
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Have had pioneer elite and marantz products over the past 5 years. pioneer elite has slightly better sound for movies/tv and the Marantz is extremely better with music...like in another league. I love them both, but i listen to music more so i prefer the Marantz.
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Second the Marantz.
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Originally Posted by jrolin1 View Post
What decent 7 channel amp has 115 total watts? For example the Yamaha is 105 watts per channel for 7 channels.
Rated Output Power (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9% THD, 2 ch driven)
Front L/R:105 W + 105 W
Center: 105 W
Surround L/R:105 W + 105 W
Surround Back L/R: 105 W + 105 W
To learn about amps you need to understand what the 1khz in the ratings stand for. You'll learn that it's easy to push 105 watts at 8 ohms at "1khz".You'll pay about 2-3 grand for true 115 watts channel x7. The amp you wrote about above has around 210 true watts........ "2 channels driven". About 30 true watts per channel which isn't really bad. You really have to research the gimmicks of power ratings on amps. I had the yamaha 3020 before I went with emotiva and it was rated around 1800 watts, but on the bench it maxed out at a "true" 78 watts per 9 channels. Really though, when you have 7 90 plus sensitivity speakers all running on 20 watts each it's REALLY loud.

This is a true BIG power amp spec:
Rated Power Bandwidth (at rated power; 8 Ohm load): 20 Hz to 20 kHz + /- 0.1 dB.

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https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpr-2
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I bought one of these earlier this year for our family room 5.1 system and pool deck speakers. It's been rock solid.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...uced-50/1.html
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