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Old 11-16-2015, 07:25 AM
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Last night a relative from someone I know very well was getting ready to board a AA flight out of Memphis. He noticed a number of middle eastern men who appeared nervous. They all boarded and were seated all around the plane. He asked the pilot to do a walk thru prior to closing the door. They did taxi and take off but immediately returned to Memphis once airborne. Back at the gate 4-5 of them were taken off the flight and he overheard they were all on the "no fly" list! Not a word of this from the media as of yet.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:41 AM
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Look up the flight number.

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How'd they manage to get on the plane if they were on the no fly list?
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TSA is worthless, too. Seems to simply be a bunch of leeches collecting paychecks and doing nothing more...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...lared-pitiful/

US lawmakers and federal watchdogs on Tuesday derided the Transportation Security Administration's ability, or lack thereof, to adequately detect weapons and other contraband during the passenger screening process at the nation's airports.

US airport screeners missed 95% of weapons, explosives in undercover tests

According to a report, secret test operation uncovers widespread security failures.

"In looking at the number of times people got through with guns or bombs in these covert testing exercises it really was pathetic. When I say that I mean pitiful," said Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.), speaking Tuesday during a House Oversight hearing concerning classified reports from federal watchdogs. "Just thinking about the breaches there, it's horrific," he added.
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Yeah how is it possible this hasn't been blasted all over the media yet?
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I'd like to say that's unbelievable that they could even get on, but it's really not. TSA is a joke.
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WTF!

I am flying to DC (Reagan National) Thursday and back Saturday. My daughter is flying out of Reagan next Wednesday and back Friday.

She's freaking out a bit.
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
TSA is worthless, too. Seems to simply be a bunch of leeches collecting paychecks and doing nothing more...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...lared-pitiful/

I agree with you regarding the TSA. However I don't agree in making these type of findings so easily accessible to the public.
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I agree with you regarding the TSA. However I don't agree in making these type of findings so easily accessible to the public.
I think it was a leaked document


The people should know this anyways, but nowadays, nobody will do anything or demand any changes...just go back to their regularly scheduled program
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The airline sold them a ticket and checked them in, I'd take it up with the airline, who should be synched to the no fly list. When have you ever seen TSA double check passengers against any list? Are you advocating we go through another level of check-in? Might not be the worst idea.
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This makes no sense. If you're on a no fly list for terror concerns why are you even in the country?

It would be easier for these men to get AK47s and individually shoot up black Friday shoppers or schools than hijack a plane.
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How can you be on a "no fly list," yet be able to freely roam about the country? ^^^^^^^^^^^ we must have been typing at the same time

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I just came across this article but it's discussing a Boston to Washington Flight. Doesn't give much information about the reasoning for the removal.

http://news.yahoo.com/boston-flight-...142405436.html
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Really surprised this hasn't made the news. Pretty sure it happens a lot like that though.
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I hate to sound like Mr Doom'n'gloom.... But get used to this shit, it's only going to get a lot worse.
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Your friend's relative asked the pilot to do a walk through?
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
I think it was a leaked document


The people should know this anyways, but nowadays, nobody will do anything or demand any changes...just go back to their regularly scheduled program
I agree that someone needs to be doing something about it.

My point was that broadcasting information like this publicly is kind of sending an invitation to terrorists.
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Originally Posted by BSpot View Post
Last night a relative from someone I know very well was getting ready to board a AA flight out of Memphis. He noticed a number of middle eastern men who appeared nervous. They all boarded and were seated all around the plane. He asked the pilot to do a walk thru prior to closing the door. They did taxi and take off but immediately returned to Memphis once airborne. Back at the gate 4-5 of them were taken off the flight and he overheard they were all on the "no fly" list! Not a word of this from the media as of yet.

The story just does not add up for me, no offense.
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Originally Posted by zgilbert View Post
I agree that someone needs to be doing something about it.

My point was that broadcasting information like this publicly is kind of sending an invitation to terrorists.
It is an invitation to terrorists, but it also should put huge pressure on TSA to actually do the job they have been given.
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How'd they manage to get on the plane if they were on the no fly list?
Really? You do know the TSA is a federal government agency right? Have you seen the "quality" people they hire? This is just another in a long list of screw ups perpetrated by the TSA.
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