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Old 11-14-2015, 10:22 AM
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Our town offers swim class for all ages. We placed our 5 yr. old in swim class for the 3rd. season now. Being this class is based on ability so she is in with kids as old as 11. Today she was on line to take her turn when the two 11 yr olds took their turns diving in, then they cut in line not allowing the smaller kids to take a turn.

After this happened the 3rd time I went down to the guard that was instructing the class and pointed out what was going on. he being 18 or so was too timid to tell the kids to get to the end of the line.

As I was going back up to the gallery an older guard approached me asking what was wrong, I told her that the guard had no control over the class and was allowing the older kids to dominate the younger ones.

Long story short, this guard says in a nut shell that you can't come in here and speak to the instructors. My response of course was then you need to make sure the instructor is doing the job they are paid to do.

You don't need ot respond, Ijust needed to rant for a minute.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:39 AM
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Good a time as any for the little tykes to learn the pecking order of the world.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:53 AM
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Good a time as any for the little tykes to learn the pecking order of the world.
Hmmmmm..........."Pecking Order"? or How to "Bully" a yonger child. Guess it depends on which side of the tracks you're from.....
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You did the right thing. The instructor should have control of and be managing the students.

There will be plenty of time for life lessons.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:50 PM
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Was a swimming instructor at the YMCA many years ago in my college days. Classes were scheduled by age groups and each age group was broken down by skill level. 3 or 4 teachers for each session. May want to look at different swim classes.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post

Long story short, this guard says in a nut shell that you can't come in here and speak to the instructors.

Similar thing here. Parents are not allowed on the pool deck. The instructors insist that we leave the pool area and sit on bleachers on the other side of a chain link fence, outside the facility.

They tried that crap with me. I told the instructor no and I told him why. He did not argue in the slightest. "Okay, you can sit right here."

Two classes later, all the parents were inside with me, where we should be.

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Old 11-15-2015, 04:46 AM
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Invite CrazyBeard to your child's swim class.
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:46 AM
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I certainly understand having the parents sit upstairs away from poolside, and until this point the classes have been pretty well run almost all starter classes a couple of years back contained only kids in the 3 yr. old range. FF until present day and you have 11 yr. olds mixed in with 5 and 6 yr. olds and the line cutting and bullying begins.

What bothered me the most was the 11 yr old kids were the worst swimmers of the group (hence them being with 5 yr olds.) and the instructor realized what they were doing but did nothing about it. You saw him look twice at the kids and again at the line of kids and then allow them to stay in front anyway.

Then the 2nd instructor confronting me about "Is something wrong" with her accusatory tone. She wasn't too happy when my tone was just as accusatory towards her subordinate.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:58 PM
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Good a time as any for the little tykes to learn the pecking order of the world.
seriously?
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapi View Post
Similar thing here. Parents are not allowed on the pool deck. The instructors insist that we leave the pool area and sit on bleachers on the other side of a chain link fence, outside the facility.

They tried that crap with me. I told the instructor no and I told him why. He did not argue in the slightest. "Okay, you can sit right here."

Two classes later, all the parents were inside with me, where we should be.

Stand up for what's right, no matter what.

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When you "told him why" did you simply say, "because I'm a helicopter parent?"
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:11 AM
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I was a certified WSI, that stuff wouldn't fly with me. every kid is paying equal amount of money gets equal time. If I were you though and really wanted my kid to improve I would look into private lessons. Set them at 15-20 minutes as after that the kids attention spans are not that great. Let me guess it was the end of the lesson they were doing the dive ins? by that time most younger instructors just let them go in and out with no guidance and I could easily see this happening.
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bayfisher92 View Post
I was a certified WSI, that stuff wouldn't fly with me. every kid is paying equal amount of money gets equal time. If I were you though and really wanted my kid to improve I would look into private lessons. Set them at 15-20 minutes as after that the kids attention spans are not that great. Let me guess it was the end of the lesson they were doing the dive ins? by that time most younger instructors just let them go in and out with no guidance and I could easily see this happening.
To answer last first yes last 10 minutes of a 30 minute class. During summer we have had private lessons for her, during fall we do it as much for socializing as anything else.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:28 AM
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When I was a kid my parents just dropped me off . Then we lived across the street from the yacht club and I was on the swim team my Mom would wake me up, hand me a towel and a Pop Tart and say practice is starting, walk across the street and have a good practice. I went on to be a lifeguard, swim instructor, junior Olympic swimmer .

My kids took lessons at the YMCA- they have a no parents on the pool deck rule and a window that parents can watch through but the kids can't see them. This keeps most parents from being too involved. I have girls and they don't take sh*t from anyone- on the pool deck, the schoolyard, in school- they learned that on their own.
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