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Old 01-23-2006, 09:09 AM
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If there are any police officers and/or detectives lurking here on THT, I need some assistance please...

On Sunday the 15th, my 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 was sideswiped on the passenger side while sitting in my front yard. Yep, my front yard. We had company over for my daughters 7th birthday, so I moved three of our vehicles to along side the road. All three were 100% on my property. This was done in order to make room in the driveway for my inlaws and my parents who were bringing my grandmothers. Sometime between 3 and 8 PM, my truck got hit from someone leaving my neighbors house, which is the last house on the street. We're the second to last.

We did not notice until Saturday afternoon. The drivers side of all three vehicles was facing the house, so when I went out to move them back into the driveway I never saw the damaged area. I simply backed the truck up and parked it with the passenger side next to the boat. Nobody ever walks in between them.

My wife discovered pieces of broken headlamp up near the road Tuesday afternoon. We looked at all the lights on our vehicles and all were fine. Since I didn't quite grasp where she said she had found them, I assumed they were at the end of the driveway. My next conclusion was that someone from the neighbors house used out driveway to turn around, hit my old Jeep and busted up their own car. I put 2 and 2 together when I noticed the damage on the truck on Saturday.

I approached my neighbor and he says he doesn't know what happened...and I believe him. I think one of his kids (all grown) or thier friends does know though.

So, I filed a police report with the Calvert Co. sheriffs office and since a week had passed, they did not send anyone out to take a look. I can understand why so no hard feeling there.

All I have to go on are pieces of the broken light. I superglued them back together so I would have an idea of what the complete light looks like. It's a side marker from the drivers side of what I believe to be an SUV or pickup based on the height of the damage to my truck. I'm assuming driver's side due to the "L" I saw on the light. Based on this, I'm currently trying to ID the vehicle that hit my truck.

My question is, can the make and model of the vehicle in question be obtained from the following limited info. I took off the reassembled side marker?

Stamped on the bottom is DOT 12P AP2 91 GUIDE 4A.
Stamped on the top is Made in UK and __RELLO. Those two blanks indicate more lettes on a piece I could not find.

I've had no luck searching parking lots and what not for an identical light.

Based on the style of light, I'm guessing the vechile is at least 5 years (probably more) old. I'll get a pic of the side marker as soon as I find a digital camera...mine is broken.


With all that in mind, is there anything else I can/should do? I don't want to approach my neighbor again until I know what the make and model of the vhicle is.

Thanks.
Old 01-23-2006, 09:17 AM
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Just a thought - Honda CRVs are made in England, as are some of the Land Rover, Range Rover products. Also - sometimes those last two digits are the model year. 91 in this case.
Old 01-23-2006, 09:49 AM
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tried calling a dealer's parts department?
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Personnally, I think you're wasting your time. You won't be able to prove who did this unless someone comes forward and says they were a witness. Maybe if you knew the make and model and likely owner and politely ask him, he would own up. Just leave him an honorable out, as in " I was drinking and didn't know I hit you". Otherwise the uninsured motorist provision in your auto policy will cover it. You should not be gigged for an at fault accident, but you will have to eat the deductable. Check with your agent for clarification.
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some punk teenager with those new european lights. Probably has a cheesy exhaust system also.

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In order for the uninsured moterest coverage to work you must identefy the moterest, this is a real catch 22 I ran into several years ago.
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skyranchrob - 1/23/2006 11:10 AM

In order for the uninsured moterest coverage to work you must identefy the moterest, this is a real catch 22 I ran into several years ago.
That is correct for property damage claims. Hit and run bodily injury is covered by UM/UIM.
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Sorry to hear of your luck, that's really a drag!

Question: Is your dead end street used often as a turn around by motorists? Since you are being a detective, look at the layout in front of your house, what action(s) would a driver have to take to hit your vehicle?

Next I would talk with the various dealers on two counts.
One: how many of their vehicles comes with "GLASS" headlight and marker lights? How far back would they have to go to have glass lights or beezles?
Two: Do they recognize the piece that you have glued back together?

As a previous body shop owner and operator I have to ask you, are you certain there isn't any paint from the other vehicle....I figure there "has to be" somewhere. If so, what color is it? If there is paint on the side of your truck I would also ask the dealership if that colour is a colour they would have used? You could also ask a body shop about the paint colour, they should have a better grasp of paint colours and vehicle make, models and years.

So lets say you do narrow it down to just a few makes, models and years and you see possibly one of your neighbors guests with a vehicle that matches what you think you know, "would" you go over to their property and look that particular vehicle over for fresh paint???

Are you certain that the damage wasn't caused by one of your guests?

Now for one of my famous IMO comments. How much is it going to cost you in court if you do find the vehicle and the owner who claims zero knowledge of the accident despite their vehicle is freshly repainted?
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Oh wait, I saw this one on CSI

The glass is always a very unique type that is only used on a certain vehicle,
Any police department in the world can sit down and make the computer go clickity clickity and instantly it shows a map of the city with the exact location of the three vehicles circled in red.

At least one of the vehicle owners will be a hot blond so one of the regular cast can get some sexual tension and really long eye contact going while they fall in love with her, but everybody else thinks she is guilty, but she never is.

Then the rest of the cast will have to visit a strip club to interview some sleazy creep who also looks guilty as sin and is a real jerk too, but he's never the guilty guy either, He's just a good excuse to visit the strip club, I think they do it on every other episode, and He's probably getting tired of it too.

The car will eventually turn out to belong to an assistant DA who was involved in a hit an run, but covered it all up because of underage girls, and his dad is running for congress. Dad is in on it too, but with the good guys closing in, he will announce that he is withdrawing from the race because of some Nanny wages withholding issue, and He wants to spend more time with his family. That is all that happens to him, In the end, everybody gets off scot free, and you have to fix your own car.

All the regular cast gets together back at the strip bar to drink beer and say philosophical things about it not being fair. Maybe they will invite you to come along.


Hope that helps.


But seriously, sorry to hear about your truck, but I wouldn't expect much help unless somebody was injured.
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Believe it or not, I had three uninsured motorist claims last year on three different cars. Never once had to identify the motorist. State Farm Insurance. Did have to Pay a $250 deductible each time
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prxmid - 1/23/2006 6:41 PM

Believe it or not, I had three uninsured motorist claims last year on three different cars. Never once had to identify the motorist. State Farm Insurance. Did have to Pay a $250 deductible each time
prxmid, not doubting you man but the usual deductible on UM/UIM is $100. Are you sure they didn't pay under your collision?
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Maybe this will help, Guide is Guide Division of GM (I retired from there), 91 is 1991, 4 is Buick , "A" is A Body style which I think is the Cutlass Ciera. Thats all from old memory but I think its pretty close. Hope you catch them.
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No Shag, in fact it was the insurance company that said it would be covered under uninsured motorist. I have $1000 deductible under collision.

Each time the cares were hit on the street or in a lot. No witnesses, no note. $250 each and no hit to the insurance rate

Repair bills were between 1,000-2,000 each occurance
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gw204, that would be a Buick century not an Olds Cutlass, sorry, been retired too long.
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Santee, you're exactly right. I figured that out yesterday afternoon. I saw a Century on my way back to the office from lunch and thought the side marker looked remarkably similar. So I hopped on Ebay, did a search for the light and whala, ID'ed the vehicle. I took a photo to my neighbor and he recognized the car as belonging to one of his son's friends. He called and spoke to the father of the bum and learned his son said he hit a pole at Walmart. But the car has red paint from my truck on it. BUSTED!!!!!!

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Glad you got him! Now I hope the parents step up and take responsibility or better yet make the kid come clean.
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gw204 - 1/24/2006 8:00 AM

Santee, you're exactly right. I figured that out yesterday afternoon. I saw a Century on my way back to the office from lunch and thought the side marker looked remarkably similar. So I hopped on Ebay, did a search for the light and whala, ID'ed the vehicle. I took a photo to my neighbor and he recognized the car as belonging to one of his son's friends. He called and spoke to the father of the bum and learned his son said he hit a pole at Walmart. But the car has red paint from my truck on it. BUSTED!!!!!!
That's awesome! Let us know what happens in the end...
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If I was a gambling man I would have laid odds that you would not have found out who did it. Congrats.

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