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Old 09-25-2015, 10:58 AM
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:14 AM
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How would they get the releasing agent under the crown to release it?
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:18 AM
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If a permanent cement was use to bond a crown onto a post is there releasing agents that can be use to release the bond of the permanent cement?
A cold steel chisel and 2lb hammer would work.
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:46 AM
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Just spend the $80
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:59 AM
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If it was a new crown they should re do it for free, if an old crown I'd say the $80 is OK.
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:01 PM
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Yeah right....that is not going to happen.

Let's say your roof is leaking and I come over to fix it, at the end of the day you pay me $1,800.
Three days later your roof is leaking again, how willing are you going to be to pay me another $1,800 to do the same job you paid me to do in the first place?
There are alot of shitty, fly by night, dentists out there.
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Unless your dentist is a complete quack he should fix your crown, no questions asked.

If you were able to get the crown loose yourself, what would you do next (hit it with some 5200 and re-attach it)?
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:06 PM
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I'm not aware of any releasing agents that break down cement. Most likely the post is the culprit. If it was the interface between the crown and the post, the crown would simply come off. Sometimes, the crown will stay connected to the post, but the post will bind and not come out. That is due to the friction of the inside the canal. If you're not in pain simply wait to hear hear back from his office. He or she will be able to remove the post and simply re-cement it. If you're in pain when you bite, the root may be cracked and you might want to see someone sooner.. Hope this helps.
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So there is chemicals that will release the blob of cement that is holding it on?
I don't know, when I had a similar problem they grinded the crown down to the post and then attached a new crown.

It was free being the first one broke during dinner 2 days after the crown was put in place.
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BTW: You should Not be charged!. You wouldn't be in my office
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yes there are, it is called jelly beans, or gummy bears. put a hand full in your mouth, chew on that side until you get it off. 5200 release agent if the gummy bears don't do it!")
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I have a family history of dentistry and was going to attend dental school but decided I didn't want the same stressful life.

The issue was likely due to the amount of set time the crown had. How long was the time period between the installation and the crown falling off? Also was this a chain dentist like afdent or a family dentist?
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After this is fixed, do yourself a favor and get a different dentist.
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So there is chemicals that will release the blob of cement that is holding it on?
Polymerthacrylates (as used in dentistry and orthopedic surgery) are polymers that have tremendous binding abilities with similar molecules. There are no physiochemical means to dissolve them back to their component molecules. To do so would require energies and temperatures and reactions inconsistent with human physiology.

In short, nothing short of a blowtorch, or perhaps dynamite would cause dental polymers to dissolve.

You can absorb small amounts of these materials into your blood stream, and these are then conjugated and excreted in your bile or urine. (There are some toxic effects to these materials)
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No there is no pain in the bone or soft tissue. The tooth does seem to inflame the gum tissue in the immediate area at times....that I stay on top of with Peridex oral rinse.
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About 30 hours. A family dentist

I do not eat candies, toffees or any other bad for the teeth foods. I was eating a home made buffaloburger at the time it came loose.

Thats pretty bad that he didn't offer to put it back on for you free of charge. You often hear about things happening like this at big chain dentistry shops where there is high doctor/patient turnover.

If may families practice was close by I would have it put back on for free for you. Sorry you have had to deal with this. The best marketing tool my Dad has had over the years is going above and beyond for people and not charging them small fees like $80 for things that he can quickly do to keep them happy. Even giving free cleanings and services to families going through hard times is something he does on a daily basis and his practice has flourished because of it. Ask around and find a new family dentist with a proven track record.
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Originally Posted by 1NO REGRETS View Post
yes there are, it is called jelly beans, or gummy bears. put a hand full in your mouth, chew on that side until you get it off. 5200 release agent if the gummy bears don't do it!")
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You must not be one of the guys that were bragging about how hot their dentists were a couple weeks back. Would have been just another excuse to go back.

It seems to always cost more than what they say it will. What business is this not true for? Well, except mine.

Think I would get it glued back on before it gets stuff in there and begins to decay on the post.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:09 PM
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you should not have to pay a dime for his screw up.I can't see how he could charge another $80 when it came off that soon whatever the reason he tries to give you.I have a mouthful of crowns for at least 15 years and they don't budge.good luck but get it fixed sooner than later.
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Did you talk to the dentist or to one of the staff. Perhaps if it was staff they didn't recognize you and the short time you'd had it in and quoted you the standard price.

If it was staff, I'd ask to speak directly to the dentist and tell him what you were told and ask if this was his policy. If it is, find another dentist.

I'm not a dentist but every crown my wife or I have had come off came completely off. There was nothing to hang up and keep it in. Maybe your implant came loose? Or the root broke if not an implant.
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