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Old 09-12-2015, 09:35 AM
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Friday morning 4:15 am, I am on my was out Alamitos Bay, under the second street bridge out of the corner of my eyes I sense something was wrong, I see a shadow, I know there is a buoy there but this is too tall to be that, I quickly take the boat out of gear and step in the cockpit to get a better look.
Two people on SUP's, no light or reflectors, and they did no show up on my radar.

So what are the responsibilities of people on SUP's in the dark, I came very close to running these people over.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:04 AM
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Oar powered = same nav lights as "under sail". Since they are under 7 meters they are required to have at minimum a flashlight for collision avoidance.

They are thick as fleas down here and just as annoying.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:22 PM
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What is a SUP?
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:24 PM
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What is a SUP?
Stand up paddleboard
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run their asses over
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I kayak fish at night often. My guess is that they were well aware of you and just out of the way. They should have probably flashed a light towards you so that there was no confusion. I sometimes have to avoid shrimp boats and small fishing boats at night. If I don't have my 360 degree light on, I will use a flashlight most times to alert them that I am in the area. I sometimes just stay dark though when I am clearly outside of a channel in a place that they cannot draft.

Of course, they could have been just ignorant of the potential danger and had no lights whatsoever.
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SUP at 4:15 am and no lights is suicidal........
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Hardly doubt they would show up on radar without something to reflect the beam back.
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Stand up paddleboard
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
Friday morning 4:15 am, I am on my was out Alamitos Bay, under the second street bridge ...
Grew up there. Know the place well. Funny you should bring this up. Must be a time of day thing, just like fishing. I was exiting the Mission Bay Channel in San Diego at the same time last Tuesday. Pitch black. A sport boat was ahead of me. He comes on channel 16 calling the MB Life Guard Service to report two SUP'ers at the mouth of the channel without any lights.

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SUP at 4:15 am and no lights is suicidal........
That's what I was thinking. I was only doing 5 knots, but immediately throttled back some, and felt threatened. The last thing I want to do is be in an accident, I don't care whose fault it is. What are those crazy bastards doing out there in a navigation channel at 4 freakin' a.m.? My radar didn't pick them up and I never saw them. I've been around night time navigating long enough where we had to beware the Bayliners, the college rowing sculls, and now the ever popular racing outrigger canoes. This however, takes the cake.
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Stand up paddleboard
And I thought he was asking us what's up.
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And I thought he was asking us what's up.
It's wusup
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It's wusup
It's. What SUP!
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
Friday morning 4:15 am, I am on my was out Alamitos Bay, under the second street bridge out of the corner of my eyes I sense something was wrong, I see a shadow, I know there is a buoy there but this is too tall to be that, I quickly take the boat out of gear and step in the cockpit to get a better look.
Two people on SUP's, no light or reflectors, and they did no show up on my radar.

So what are the responsibilities of people on SUP's in the dark, I came very close to running these people over.
I feel your pain. We have a home in Newport. Stayed there for a month this summer. We can't even leave our dock at times. They are everywhere. Most of them are dumb as a box or rocks it seems.
Don't even get me started on the Kayak people
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Kayak OR paddleboard should be subject to the same restrictions as PWCs.. no operating on coastal waters after sunset, lights or no lights. They are simply invisible to radar and cannot get out of their own way let alone a vessel under power.
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They were at PTing before work would be my guess. A few guys at work do it, heck one of them does a yearly race between two of the islands in Hawaii.
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