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Old 01-10-2006, 06:22 PM
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You know what I don't get? Since all of these laminate flooring products that are talked about in other posts are not real true woods, where's all this expansion and contraction coming from??????? I know my Allco product that I'll be laying sure looks like synthetic wood.

So my question is: has anyone ever tried gluing the darn thing down?
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the subfloor is a different material than the flooring itself = different expansion/contraction ratios. These floors have to float.

I have noticed that my exterior decks make a lot of noise when it is cold as the Trex material expands and contracts differently than the 2x12 wood joists - to the point where it actually breaks deck screws.
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skibum - 1/11/2006 12:32 AM

the subfloor is a different material than the flooring itself = different expansion/contraction ratios. These floors have to float.
DAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH, right. Sometimes I wonder where my head is.......that makes perfect sense.

My initial thought comes from: I'm doing my bathroom and the floor is made up of, hardwood sub floor w/ two layers of linoleum flooring which are glued down and then a layer of self leveler (concrete) to smooth and level things off. So I'm questioning why I can't just glue the laminate flooring down? It's not like the floor under the laminate is going to move any, especially with the furnance pretty much under the bathroom.

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Sounds like tile might be simple. And that does get mortered down. Why do you feel the need to not let the floor float?!

Just finished installing almost 5000# of tile in my new house - all over 1 1/2" gypcrete with radiant heat.
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A few reasons I didn't pick tile.
One: I've got marble tile on the 3 walls going from floor to ceiling.......there would be just to much of the same and I don't feel it would look any good.
Two: I'm going for that contemporary look and I don't see a tile working into the theme.
Three: I wanted to keep the floor elevations (bathroom to hall) as close to the same as I could.

I ended up picking the laminate that I did because it was rated for moisture, but more because of how dark it is...close to ebony in shade. I'm hoping the simulated wood floor will be a nice contrast with all the marble....it's a textures thing.

As for the floating part goes.......I guess it boils down to that how the laminate floor sounds when one walks on it part. But as long as the floor stands up to the bathroom environment and gives me the look I'm after I can live with the sound, buttttttt if I can eliminate that sound things would even be better.

So what do you think?
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In most installations that I have seen (including mine) there is an 1/8" foam product that you are supposed to lay under the floor. This acts as a moisture barrier and sound control. Mine was blue.
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msumoose - 1/11/2006 1:35 PM

In most installations that I have seen (including mine) there is an 1/8" foam product that you are supposed to lay under the floor.
Yah mine is factory attached to the back of my flooring and therefore is not a seperate purchase or install.

So if I glued my flooring down, really I'm just gluing the foam pad to the floor. And given that the area is only 5 x 6 I can't see there will be a lot of expansion and contraction going on in the flooring material itself. ??? ;? Hence the idea of gluing it down.
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Garett - 1/11/2006 1:13 PM
So if I glued my flooring down, really I'm just gluing the foam pad to the floor. And given that the area is only 5 x 6 I can't see there will be a lot of expansion and contraction going on in the flooring material itself. ??? ;? Hence the idea of gluing it down.
Even though small, a bathroom has such a high moisture problem, I would think twice?
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Well last night I laid the best part of the room out just to walk on it and see what it sounded like.......in sock feet there was zero noise. But despite that, I've slept on it and have decided that I'm going to trowel out some caulk before I lay the floor.

My thinking on this is: if the manufacture says it is alright to lay a bead of caulk around the parameter of the room to the baseboard despite the 1/4" to 3/8" gap that is required, then what the heck can it hurt to set the laminate flooring down in a bed of caulk. The caulk will set the flooring and it will have flexibility. I guess time will tell won't it.
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Worst case you have to rip it out and start over. Hell, it's only 5x6! I still don't like the laminates but it sounds like it works for you...
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