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Old 09-06-2015, 07:53 PM
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Wow, I sure hope "diverse" students were't attacked days ago!
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Golly, sounds like nothing happened....
The U.S. Military Academy at West Point is investigating an annual pillow fight at the school that turned bloody and left 30 cadets injured, most of them with concussions.

The school’s superintendent says appropriate action will be taken once an investigation by military police is concluded.

The pillow fight is an annual tradition stretching back more than a century and is intended to build class spirit among incoming first year students known as plebes. Held in the school’s main courtyard it comes at the end of a summer training period before the plebes enter the academic year.

The pillow fight held on August 20 resulted in 24 cadets suffering concussions and others suffering injuries including a broken nose, a dislocated shoulder and a broken cheekbone. The New York Times first reported the violence at this year’s fight. Sources told the Times that some cadets had placed helmets inside the pillowcases used in the fight.

Video posted on social media shows hundreds of cadets pouring into the courtyard striking each other with pillows for an extended period of time.

In a statement, the school's superintendent Lt. Gen. Robert L. Caslen Jr. said spirit events like the pillow fight are held "in order to build esprit de corps among their class, especially following their tough first summer."

"While these spirit events do occur, we never condone any activity that results in intentional harm to a teammate. Although the vast majority of the class appears to have maintained the spirit of the event; it is apparent that a few did not," Caslen said.

"A military police investigation that began the night of the incident is ongoing," he said. "I assure you that the chain of command will take appropriate action when the investigation is complete."

Caslen said that 30 cadets were evaluated by medical personnel.

"Specifically, 24 cadets were diagnosed with concussions, none of them severe," he said. "Other injuries sustained included a broken nose, a dislocated shoulder, and a hairline fracture of a cheekbone for one of the concussed cadets."

He said that four other cadets were also evaluated by medicate personnel and were released with no injuries.

"No cadets left the Academy because of their injuries," Caslen said. "All cadets have been returned to duty."

Medical personnel will follow up with the injured cadets "including following established evidence-based concussion care protocols. In addition, the chain of command and medical professionals will continue follow-up with these cadets to address any negative impact on their performance or experience as a cadet."

"I take full responsibility for all actions that occur here at West Point to include the event on August 20, 2015," Caslen said. "We remain committed to the development of leaders of character. We will continue our investigation, ensure accountability, and reinforce with the Corps that we must all take care of our teammates."
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I wonder why this is only hitting the news days later...hmmmm, am I missing something?
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Hard to believe something so disgraceful could happen there. They have dishonored West Point. I hope they catch the mutts.
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Spoke to a friend of mine who is a grad. This happens every year amongst the plebes. Every once in a while it hits the news. I would hardly say its disgraceful. Try being locked up at a service academy your entire plebe year. A little rough housing and agression isn't the end of the world.
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Spoke to a friend of mine who is a grad. This happens every year amongst the plebes. Every once in a while it hits the news. I would hardly say its disgraceful. Try being locked up at a service academy your entire plebe year. A little rough housing and agression isn't the end of the world.
This. Currently reading a book called "My Share of the Task". Memoir of the commander of US and coalition forces during Afghanistan, who went to West Point.

Food fights, pillow fights and the like are a tradition at West Point. Nothing wrong with it. Good way to build comradery between the plebes and higher ranking cadets.

Not disgraceful at all.
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Originally Posted by mab108 View Post
Spoke to a friend of mine who is a grad. This happens every year amongst the plebes. Every once in a while it hits the news. I would hardly say its disgraceful. Try being locked up at a service academy your entire plebe year. A little rough housing and agression isn't the end of the world.
No explanation needed, my son went to USMA, that's why I'm surprised, nothing like this has happened in the past.
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This. Currently reading a book called "My Share of the Task". Memoir of the commander of US and coalition forces during Afghanistan, who went to West Point.

Food fights, pillow fights and the like are a tradition at West Point. Nothing wrong with it. Good way to build comradery between the plebes and higher ranking cadets.

Not disgraceful at all.
They usually don't break legs or give over 20 concussions. This is yet one more instance of a double standard now at the service academies.

Read "Absolutely American" for a contemporary view of West Point.
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College freshman trying to learn to be adults real fast and letting out some aggression. Dumb that some always want to take it up a notch, but an arse whippin will cure that. Friday night at the barracks in a training command should never hit the news either...
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Is putting helmets in the pillow cases normal as well? Seems like that may be going a little overboard.

Sounds like no major injuries but a few got clocked pretty good.
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Is the world so boring that this is all the media can find to report?
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The bigger question is will the new Chief of Staff take any interest in the event? Probably not but he will probably send a letter to the Commander.
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[QUOTE=onrecess;8225985]Hard to believe something so disgraceful could happen there. They have dishonored West Point. I hope they catch the mutts.[/QUOT


It may help if you didn't comment on things you obviously have zero working knowledge of.
I have two brothers who are both West Point grads, this is nothing new!

Guess you want to pussify soldiers too, there's a great plan. I am very thankful most traditions that continue to happen there remain private.
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What's even worse about the whole thing is that these young men and women with so much potential wasted it at West Point!
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West Point is all about honor. Hiding helmets in pillowcases and assaulting fellow officers and gentlemen is hardly traditional, honorable, or acceptable. These mutts will be driven out, as they should be. Odd that anyone would support cowardly assault. Maybe you just don't understand what West Point is about.
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West Point is all about honor. Hiding helmets in pillowcases and assaulting fellow officers and gentlemen is hardly traditional, honorable, or acceptable. These mutts will be driven out, as they should be. Odd that anyone would support cowardly assault. Maybe you just don't understand what West Point is about.
How did they do it when you were there?
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A five page regulation will come out specifying what can and can not be put in pillow cases during pillow fights
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West Point is all about honor. Hiding helmets in pillowcases and assaulting fellow officers and gentlemen is hardly traditional, honorable, or acceptable. These mutts will be driven out, as they should be. Odd that anyone would support cowardly assault. Maybe you just don't understand what West Point is about.
As a grad, the pillow fight is certainly tradition.

The honorability of loading pillow cases with helmets, lock boxes, etc....is certainly debatable.
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You can clearly see in the video that not everyone has their glow belt on. This is what happens when you don't wear your glow belt.
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I didn't attend. I was an enlisted man. I do know history and served under grads who were proud of what it stands for. Like the cheaters at Navy, these mutts will be driven out in disgrace. So tell me how your encounters as an NCO serving w ith west Pointers went?
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