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Old 09-06-2015, 05:19 PM
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2 year old yellow lab.

Symptoms include hot spots, patches of hair missing, red/inflammed underbelly, constantly shaking head like something is in her ears.

Its not fleas, we have had her on expensive food, cheap food, and everything in between and it doesn't seem to help.

Gave her the yeast pills from Walmart which may have helped some?

Really dont want to have to giver her antihistamines for the rest of her life.

Need help!!!!!

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www.Ramard.com - I take their supplements myself and so do my horses.

http://www.ramardinc.com/product/68/...nd-canine.html

Also, I fed my black lab Avoderm dry food and that helped her vastly.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:54 PM
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Try dinovite. 100% money back guarantee. Has helped lots of dogs.

Can't hurt. Helped my Mom's dog that had ridiculous skin/coat problems. She heard about it on the Michael Medved (sp?) Radio show and tried it.

Www.dinovite.com
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I have an 11 year old lab. I've been dealing with allergies since day one so I'm very "experienced" with this issue. I tried dinovite, it did absolutely nothing. His flare ups would be so bad that I would have to take him in to get shaved and a medical bath. The only thing that worked for us was keeping his coat shaved very short and I got him allergy tested. Been going through the allergy shots for 3 years now and it's the only thing about that works. I'm about to try apoquel (sp?) to cut down on the cost
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Originally Posted by littletunny View Post
2 year old yellow lab.

Symptoms include hot spots, patches of hair missing, red/inflammed underbelly, constantly shaking head like something is in her ears.

Its not fleas, we have had her on expensive food, cheap food, and everything in between and it doesn't seem to help.

Gave her the yeast pills from Walmart which may have helped some?

Really dont want to have to giver her antihistamines for the rest of her life.

Need help!!!!!


You say expensive food and cheap food. That doesn't mean anything. We have a golden who is 8, got her as a rescue at 5. Your dog sounds like mine 3 years ago. Could very well be food allergies. Ours is allergic to anything with wheat or grain. We switched her over to Salmon and within 3 weeks every issues went away. I dropped a roll a couple a weeks ago and she grabbed it and ran, ate it before I could get it out. Within a day she had a red belly and red ears, shaking, scratching you name it. It was back to "Normal" within 72 hours


We use this http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signa...100215967.html
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Any food with corn in it ?
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What solutions has your vet recommended?
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x2 Dinovite.......solved similar problems on my dog
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While this doesn't work in but about 70% of the dogs we have tried it on, if you can find a farmers market etc...that has LOCAL honey, give her a teaspoon am and pm on her food or bread etc...Bees are indiscriminate about where they get there pollen, so they pull it from about 15 plus plants, trees etc.. but it MUST be unpasteurized LOCAL honey. a 25mg Benadryl tab am and pm also helps and has little side effect. If the honey works it takes about 60 days. I know it sounds like Farmers Almanac BS but it also works on humans. I haven't been sick in 10-12 YEARS and I used to get hellish sinus infections that would morph into strep. Nothing, nada since I started putting it in my coffee am and tea pm.
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your dog has a food allergy
you need to find the right food and it will go away

honey also works sometimes as well as dinovite
keep trying different foods till you find the right one
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Originally Posted by FASTFJR View Post
You say expensive food and cheap food. That doesn't mean anything. We have a golden who is 8, got her as a rescue at 5. Your dog sounds like mine 3 years ago. Could very well be food allergies. Ours is allergic to anything with wheat or grain. We switched her over to Salmon and within 3 weeks every issues went away. I dropped a roll a couple a weeks ago and she grabbed it and ran, ate it before I could get it out. Within a day she had a red belly and red ears, shaking, scratching you name it. It was back to "Normal" within 72 hours


We use this http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signa...100215967.html
Same as ours. We buy Fromms grain free and hasn't had an issue since. The other thing we noticed is his urine no longer kills the grass and his poops are much smaller. (Vet said better food allows better absorption)
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Put the dog on a soy, wheat and grain free food at a minimum, or better yet on a grain free food. Some dogs also are allergic to chicken, so get one that chicken is not the protein source.
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Orijen 6 Fish cured my pooch completely.
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I have a Shepard with the same issues. After years of suffering and trying various diets, etc, a new vet recommended putting him on antihistamines. He said very little down side to the meds and the dog can be on them for ever. It's been two years now and nary an itch.
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Similar problem with a male Golden Retriever a while back... diagnosed mostly as flea allergy. Can't exactly keep a dog out of the yard and changing diet didn't really work.

Vet would give the dog a cortisone shot once or twice per year when he had a flare-up and that seemed to help reduce the inflammation and need to scratch...
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if you suspect allergy bring her to the vet where they can do a proper allergy test and possible skin scraping to see what is going on, other wise you are just poking around and solving nothing. Allergies can be some of the most irritating conditions a dog can suffer from, and guessing at a cure could be making it worse..

From an allergy standpoint the cost of food has little to do with anything. The APBT in my sig pic was allergic to the main ingredient in an top of the line hypoallergenic food.. That stuff is $3.30 a can for a 12 oz can of wet food..
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Our yellow lab Abby has same problem beginning each summer. I give her Zyrtec and apply cortisone cream to affected areas. After a week or 2 of treatment she gets better for the rest of summer. Vet recommended it, and it works.
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I'm not a vet but I was told that allergies are most influenced by diet.
The breed of my dogs a well know to have a TON of skin allergy problems, and I probably had them all.
I tried probably 20 different types of food, grain free, chicken based, duck based, salmon based, holistic, natural, the cheapest, the most expensive, the one in the middle, etc... some may be a little bit better than others but I would still have a lot of allergy and skin problems.
I was ready to give up and somebody told me to try RAW diet PRAY model with a spoonful of virgin coconut oil. The difference was unfreaking believable within 2 weeks most of the skin problem were gone.
Their bodies got also leaner and not bloated. Before if they would lay on the grass, it was guaranteed to they would be full of rashes all over their bodies... but now their coat is much stronger and shinier, and they can rub against grass or anything else and they are ok with no more symptoms.

I warn you, is a RPIA to prepare and a little bit more expensive than your average dry food, and I would not know if it would be the solution in your particular case.
Just throwing it out there in case you run out of options and decide to give it a try.
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If you think it is food allergy do this test. It will tell you specifically what the dog is allergic to.
http://www.nutriscan.org/

General rule for me to avoide these common allergens
Any and grains
Soy or other fillers
Lamb or poultry (chicken especially but turkey too)

Raw diet might be a good choice. You can order frozen raw shipped to you. Just defrost and serve. A lot more convenient.

But you want to know what they are allergic to. If you do a raw diet with chicken and they are allergic to it the raw diet obviously won't help. So I highly recommend the test if you suspect food. I do because of the ear infections. That is a common sign and I haven't heard of that being an issue with flea allergies. Your dog may have both or other environmental allergies so keep that in mind. Flea treatments, household cleaners, yard spray etc.

Cortisone shots are a last resort for me. I had to give them to my previous golden during allergy season. But they are really hard on the body. Just read about the side effects of cortisone use. Even topically long term it has potential for pretty serious consequences.

If you do use Benadryl or something like that make sure it is the uncoated tablets. The coating can have ingredients that are bad for dogs. I also like to get the non-died ones from cvs. No artificial coloring (usually red40 for Benadryl like products) Who needs a dye in a medication anyway?

Expensive vs cheap food doesn't necessarily make it better. Check out dogfoodadvisor.com for a breakdown and rating of foods based on ingredients.

I use Origen 6 fish and like it quite a bit other than the fishy smell. Great for retriever breeds. It also includes glucosamine in the food so no need to supplement.
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Have you had a full blood panel done recently? Some of those issues can be thyroid related. Hair loss, pigmentation. I've had 2 that were hypothyroid with zero traditional symptoms (lethargy etc) but you may want to look into that too. You want the full thyroid panel done not just the single Checkup you get with the normal idexx panel most vets use. So free and total t3 and t4 levels plus tsh at a minimum. Possibly the thyroglobulin and antibodies.
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