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Old 09-06-2015, 07:41 AM
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Default New Humvee replacement

A great new replacement, finally a safer vehicle in today's roadside bomb and mine environment. Looks awesome.
http://news.yahoo.com/humvee-us-army...021857340.html
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Old 09-06-2015, 08:09 AM
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V shaped hull to protect from blasts,,,,so common sense,,,why didn't anyone think of that? I didn't,,,makes perfect sense
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We've been rolling in those and MRAPs for years now.
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Looks tippy!
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NCummins View Post
We've been rolling in those and MRAPs for years now.
Really? MRAPs, yes. The article SAYS that.
This vehicle begins LRIP in 2015, for three years of limited production. This will be followed by five years of full production.
Seems they built 22 proof of concepts.
Maybe the article and the US Army (http://www.army.mil/article/154425/J...te_production/) don't know about your time machine.
I'm thinking you may be mistaken.
Of course, this IS the internet so anything is supposedly possible.
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I'm rather fond of these:

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Originally Posted by NCummins View Post
We've been rolling in those and MRAPs for years now.
This new one weighs about 1/3 to 1/2 of what the MRAP's weigh but offers similar protection. Oshkosh did make one of the MRAP vehicles and they have been working on this design for like 10 years. That had to be a huge advantage in that this was not a new concept, but like the 5th or 6th version of a project that had been in the pipes for a long time. I seem to recall reading that the DOD actually pointed out that this vehicle was chosen in part because was essentially built on proven technology. The "off the shelf" engine was one requirement IIRC. Even in the defense procurement world, the better mousetrap occasionally wins.
It weighs about 50% more than a Humvee, but will have at least 50% more HP plus the newest version of that trick suspension that Oshkosh has been selling to the DOD for years. The "passenger capsule" concept is pretty smart engineering. They are not giving exact HP figures for the Duramax. All they are saying is 300hp+ vs 190hp for the latest Hummer models. The current top end commercial grade Duramax puts out 335 hp, so no reason to think that the military version won't have at least that much or even the 390 hp of the pickup version considering how the Army has jacked up older diesel engines like the VT 903's in the Bradley.
I think that I read that this new Oshkosh will be the new prime mover for the M119 105mm howitzer, so you can in theory carry 2 of that combo on a C-130H.

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Originally Posted by Copper Collar View Post
I'm rather fond of these:

I am not sure what is going on with that small vehicle project. The funny part is that the fuselage on the new CH53K was widened and will fit a Humvee inside. IIRC, the USMC actually had some Mercedes "Wolf" G class jeeps for a while because they fit in their choppers. Not sure what upcoming replacement for the Chinook and Blackhawk will be able to carry internally in its larger version.
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Originally Posted by Copper Collar View Post
I'm rather fond of these:

That looks fun... but not in an IED environment. That's what has been killing and crippling our boys.
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I got to send 3 of my best motor transport operators down to test all 3 companies last year. They went down to GA for 3 weeks and got to drive all three variants as hard as they could as well as against HMMWVs in various scenarios.

"Hey Marine, go try and beat the snot out of these vehicles and tell us what needs to be better." ....They were in heaven.
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Originally Posted by jdm61 View Post
I am not sure what is going on with that small vehicle project. The funny part is that the fuselage on the new CH53K was widened and will fit a Humvee inside. IIRC, the USMC actually had some Mercedes "Wolf" G class jeeps for a while because they fit in their choppers. Not sure what upcoming replacement for the Chinook and Blackhawk will be able to carry internally in its larger version.
That isn't project. Where I'm at has a whole parking lot full of em at transpo.

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That looks fun... but not in an IED environment. That's what has been killing and crippling our boys.
You could put everyone in there own tank and it won't help. The enemy will adapt to us, just as we adapt to them. With up armor came EFPs. Give me speed, maneuverability, and get it as quiet as you can.
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