The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum

Go Back   >
Search


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-03-2015, 09:46 AM   #1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 2,255
Default Running NG line, quote seems high

I had a plumber come out and quote me to run a NG line for a grill. I have a gas range; and the plan is to tee off of it, run about 10 ft through some cabinets, then punch out the back wall (no masonry). Quote comes back at 170 in parts and 572 labor @ 104/hr. I really think I could do this myself in 2 hours. Does 5.5 hours seem high to anyone else?
ryan darrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 09:51 AM   #2
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kingston, MA
Posts: 1,783
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan darrow View Post
I had a plumber come out and quote me to run a NG line for a grill. I have a gas range; and the plan is to tee off of it, run about 10 ft through some cabinets, then punch out the back wall (no masonry). Quote comes back at 170 in parts and 572 labor @ 104/hr. I really think I could do this myself in 2 hours. Does 5.5 hours seem high to anyone else?
How long will it take the plumber to get a permit, complete the work and then get an inspection?
burtonboards32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 10:06 AM   #3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 2,255
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by burtonboards32 View Post
How long will it take the plumber to get a permit, complete the work and then get an inspection?
I was told during the quote that neither are needed for this job.
ryan darrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 10:14 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Somewhere in the middle of Michigan
Posts: 10,231
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan darrow View Post
I was told during the quote that neither are needed for this job.
That may be true if the work is done by a licensed plumber. Around here, permits and inspections would be required regardless who does such work. Depends on the local rules/regulations.
yarcraft91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 10:21 AM   #5
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Oregon
Posts: 868
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan darrow View Post
I had a plumber come out and quote me to run a NG line for a grill. I have a gas range; and the plan is to tee off of it, run about 10 ft through some cabinets, then punch out the back wall (no masonry). Quote comes back at 170 in parts and 572 labor @ 104/hr. I really think I could do this myself in 2 hours. Does 5.5 hours seem high to anyone else?
I got a quote from a plumber to plumb in a gas cooktop. $700. I did it myself in two hours and about $50 in parts.

Obviously I don't know your skill level but the job you are describing is very simple.
twollman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 10:27 AM   #6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 2,255
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twollman View Post
I got a quote from a plumber to plumb in a gas cooktop. $700. I did it myself in two hours and about $50 in parts.

Obviously I don't know your skill level but the job you are describing is very simple.
Well I'm certainly able to run flexible hose through some holes; and thread some fittings with teflon.
ryan darrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 10:34 AM   #7
Admirals Club
 
Dead Horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: OIB
Posts: 4,622
Default

yellow tape - gas--

white Teflon - water or air
Dead Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 11:02 AM   #8
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 9,431
Default

I didn't see your job, but I got a ridiculous quote to run a NG line across my cellar, and up through a floor to a new gas fireplace. I did it myself, few pieces of pipe, few hangers, few other parts and a few hours work. Very simple stuff. Cost me around $80. Instead of $1200.00
north coast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 11:07 AM   #9
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 11,704
Default

The plumber probably has lots of work, and left an hour or more of fat in his estimate figuring if you don't bite, someone else will.
SeaJay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 11:12 AM   #10
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY (Bay Ridge)
Posts: 14,422
Default

Do the job yourself if you think it's high.

You'll do it better if you know what you're doing.

If you don't know what to do or don't feel like doing it, pay the man.

You'll see the guy work and if he's screwing around tell him and keep track of his hours.

Good luck.
Esuomm1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 12:38 PM   #11
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Cozumel mostly, Denver and Denton
Posts: 3,788
Default

Simple job for a do it your selfer. I always used pipe dope, not yellow tape, and no flex, just black pipe.
skibum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 12:41 PM   #12
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Tarpon Springs, FL
Posts: 6,466
Default

I would do it myself but not sure you can run flex through a wall.
mikefloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 02:00 PM   #13
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Pineville, LA
Posts: 4,384
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skibum View Post
Simple job for a do it your selfer. I always used pipe dope, not yellow tape, and no flex, just black pipe.
Me too. I installed alot of whole house NG systems when I did plumbing. Always black pipe we threaded and put together with pipe wrenches and pipe dope.
cwhite6 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 02:03 PM   #14
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Marco Island, FL
Posts: 2,988
Default

Its for a grill, can't the OP use copper tube?
HDRyder999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 02:10 PM   #15
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 91
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skibum View Post
Simple job for a do it your selfer. I always used pipe dope, not yellow tape, and no flex, just black pipe.
3 threads by hand, 3 threads by wrench. Dope only on gas for myself ( ever see what tape does to a regulator or gas cock) ?? If you do use tape skip the first few threads.
Slagpick520 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:05 PM   #16
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Raleigh & Surf City, NC
Posts: 12,713
Default

CSST is expensive, so are the fittings.

I would flat rate that job (because I'm quick) at $500-$600. Probably take 2 hrs or less.

Call a heating contractor.
baypro21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:24 PM   #17
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Bon Secour
Posts: 19
Default

I had very similar work performed lower AL last year and it was $375. Took them less than 2 hours. Licensed and bonded company out of Mobile. This was with easy access to crawl space under the house. From what you describe it should be 5-600 tops
mulch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:28 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern Lower Michigan
Posts: 2,510
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan darrow View Post
Well I'm certainly able to run flexible hose through some holes; and thread some fittings with teflon.

And right there is why you should not do this job.

You cannot penetrate a wall with any kind of flexible gas line. In many parts of the country, you cannot conceal or enclose flexible line.
Both are code violations which are there for your safety.
s_ebels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 03:55 PM   #19
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Pineville, LA
Posts: 4,384
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by s_ebels View Post
And right there is why you should not do this job.

You cannot penetrate a wall with any kind of flexible gas line. In many parts of the country, you cannot conceal or enclose flexible line.
Both are code violations which are there for your safety.
Yep! But the plumber was so expensive. Run it and then wait when you try to sell the house and the home inspector finds the flexible line hidden in the walls.
cwhite6 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2015, 05:13 PM   #20
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Rahway/Waretown NJ
Posts: 840
Default

Who drives to the plumbing supply, waits for the parts to be pulled , loads the truck and deliverers them to the job? Who stocks the truck before it leaves the shop with the specialized tools and small parts needed to do the job? Some contractors (me) charge for travel time, in certain circumstances this includes stopping for materials. Who empties the cabinets and vacuums up after marking and drilling your expensive custom made cabinets. Would you want a new 18 year old kid laying out the job or a experienced guy? Who puts the stuff back in the cabinets when the job is done? Estimates from contractors are typically free around here, however as a small contractor I typically do not do estimates for small jobs. I would end up spending all week visiting job-sites and typing estimates instead of running the business and actually turning wrenches.

Based on your description it sounds like about a 3.5 hour job, assuming 15 minutes travel time each way to and from my shop. This assumes the contractor uses high quality American made materials and charges a small profit on these materials (ever see what a hospital charges for a Band-Aid or a Tylenol pill). The materials would run about $100 with markup. I guess about $500 would be typical around here for the whole job (this assumes contractor is licensed and insured).
Tuna Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:38 AM.


©2009 TheHullTruth.com

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.9.3.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.