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Old 09-03-2015, 04:54 AM
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Question Kids that have never had a job??

The more and more I look around at people I know the more I see grown children (Getting ready to go to college) that have *NEVER* had a job. I mean. NOTHING. Not even working at the local grocery store or anything.

It's mind boggling. I had a paper route the day I was old enough to get one. I had "working papers" a year before I should have had them (LOL, don't ask)... and I always had at least two different jobs.

These kids have never had a job, yet they have iPhones, iPads, decent cars and very expensive clothing... they aren't super-rich either... pretty much middle class kids.

Was it always like this and I didn't see it because I wasn't "in" it? Or is this something more common today? My kids (5 & 7) already have chores both at home and at our work.

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Old 09-03-2015, 04:57 AM
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I couldn't imagine. Started throwing papers at about 12 years old and haven't been without a job since. I couldn't stand not having a little jingle in my pocket and my parents sure as hell weren't going to just give it to me.
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I live in a fairly affluent town in CT. Most kids never really work. Always amazed me.
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It is becoming the new norm, unfortunately. We hire teens at my wife's business and the disparity in work ethics is amazing...some make it, and some don't. Job is easy but some just sit around and have ZERO initiative.

My kids will do something when old enough.
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
I couldn't imagine. Started throwing papers at about 12 years old and haven't been without a job since. I couldn't stand not having a little jingle in my pocket and my parents sure as hell weren't going to just give it to me.
Took the words right out of mouth verbatim.

Also had to save for car insurance and repairs. I was fortunate and came from a very well off parents, but they instilled the work ethic in me.
My dad told me "Lance you could sell pig shit to a shit farmer, your brother is naturally smart and does good in school and college, now please do well in school and get your degree to fall back on then go screw around with your dreams "

Thank God he said that,,,,and he was right

Good day all!!!
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Yeah. Blame the kids not the parents.
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I couldn't imagine. Started throwing papers at about 12 years old and haven't been without a job since. I couldn't stand not having a little jingle in my pocket and my parents sure as hell weren't going to just give it to me.
Same here. I started working in the family business at 12yo. During the summer I rode to work with dad and put in 54 hrs per week with him and my uncle. I bought a 6 month old Camaro at 15yo and bought my own clothes. Parents didn't give me s#!t.

My daughter had one job at the mall for a little while. My son worked with me thru HS. Neither one worked while in college. Their job was to graduate in the allotted time, no more. Both kids are good, self supporting, full time employed (with great careers) now so not working much didn't hurt them.

Times have changed. For the better
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The jobs kids used to have available are now occupied by poor working adults and immigrants.
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I also live in a fairly affluent town but still a mix of blue collar kids. I am amazed to see the number of kids that DO have jobs not Justin summer but during the school year. There are some pretty wealthy families that insist their kids work - kudos to them.

I had to work from paper route age on as a kid and never got to play much after school sports. So as a result I never required the kids to work but and they were all athletes. But they all ended up working for either the Park and Rec mostly weekends but some summers and school days (life guarding and officiating). My son always loved trucks soon his own he got a job at a local nursery that turned into a real great job for him plowing snow moving manure, etc. ...but they asked him to work retail just one weekend day in the shop and he quit! To this day he is sorta pigheaded but is doing just fine.

Anyway - I think it is a great way to seg the kids into the real world... I would also like to see our school put back the business department or least offer courses in "life skills". They do some personal finance(math course) and cover a lot of goal setting, personal development and career planning and such in health and other courses but they should have a dedicated course in all the other stuff not covered.
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Todays youth has been damaged by the thing where everyone gets a partition award and there are no winners or losers. I CAN NOT find any young guys to hire and train for a specialty electric trade. They are all useless unless one proves otherwise.

My kids are 14 and 16. 14 YO's first summer working on the road with me. 3rd summer for the 16 YO. 14 YO is saving up for a truck. The 16 YO has a boat that is now 50% paid off.

They know second place is the first loser (which is not a bad thing but it is what it is). While they get roof, food, phones from us the "STUFF" they want will be earned and paid for by them. Most all the other kids they know get this stuff bought for them.

One thing about them getting a job around town. Very hard. Winn Dixie and publix both do a lengthy and online application that has nothing to do with a kid looking to get started. Whatever happened to going to the manager and convincing them to hire you??

Also the 16YO tried to get a job at a local dock the processes commercial fish. Fills out an app, talks to them, and follows up every week to see if there is an opening yet. Text book, right? Well on 5th week he has been told his app has expired and needs to re apply. WHAT?? F them.

I feel bad for todays kids who do want to work.
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My son is 11 and while he does have garbage duty and is learning to mow the yard , I can't see him having time for a grocery bag or Mc D's gig any time soon given the amount of homework he is bringing home. I assume it will only get worse in the future school years but damn, i do not remember having to spend so much study time when I was his age. Summer well that's a different story ....
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Originally Posted by madhatter1 View Post
Todays youth has been damaged by the thing where everyone gets a partition award and there are no winners or losers. I CAN NOT find any young guys to hire and train for a specialty electric trade. They are all useless unless one proves otherwise.
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My bro in law hires auto techs all the time (large dealership). We were talking the other day about me expanding my business. He advised me to go to the local trade school and talk to instructors then hire a recent grad and train him myself. (hvac)

He mentioned the work ethic is falling over the yrs but if you can find a youngster with a family or that is in debt they seem more motivated to show up and actually produce. They need the steady pay.
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Half the young adults kids I know are
on the Govt.System ,Getting handouts.
The food card is a way of getting Cash,
and working part time only.
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My first job was at 14 cleaning and painting rental boat bottoms at the Palmetto Bay Marina. My Grandfather was plant manager at a JP Stevens cotton mill in Greenville SC and one day when I was visiting him at work a salesman came up to him as we were looking out over the weave room and said, "Mr. Stancill, how many people you got working here?" My Grandfather scratched his chin and said, "Oh, about half of em." Nothing much has changed except now not even half of them work. Propblem with the kids is they don't know how to do even the most rudimentary tasks like changing a tire.
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My childhood was typical...

Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
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I had my fist job at 12 raking leaves and my kids work part time while in college ...

I know a lot of kids that have never worked ... Its a shame ...
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Originally Posted by Danny33486 View Post
The jobs kids used to have available are now occupied by poor working adults and immigrants.
Precisely...
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:47 AM
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I bet everyone in this thread walked to school, in the snow, up hill - both ways.
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Originally Posted by Jersus View Post
I bet everyone in this thread walked to school, in the snow, up hill - both ways.
No, but I rode my bicycle three miles each way rain or shine because the busses would not pick up any kids who lived within 4 miles of the school.
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I never had a real job before college - I helped out in my parents' businesses as a kid, and was no stranger to "responsibility" but never saw an actual paycheck until I was 18. Of all my (mostly middle class) high school friends, I can only recall a couple of them who had real jobs, and as above they were bagboys at grocery stores etc. I recall my dad being pretty opposed to me doing that, he thought it would be an epic waste of time and I can't say I entirely disagree. I did land a programming gig one summer and made $1k or so.

By my sophomore year in college, I was working 3 jobs and probably spending more time at work than in class, between reasonable student loans and dirt cheap on-campus housing, 80% of what I earned was disposable income so I was pretty motivated to keep working.
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