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Old 09-01-2015, 07:29 PM   #1
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This is a good article on workplace violence and murderers like the one in Virginia. Ever met an injustice collector? Watching for them could predict these killers.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...gans-manifesto

Of course, people would object if you included this in not allowing gun purchases.
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A coined phrase based on retrospective examination of after the fact data synthesis.
Catchy.
20-20 hindsight.
I wonder how many rights will be foregone to turn this into a preemptive predictor?
Would you feel better if you had unanimous agreement that none of the cases in the article should ever be allowed to purchase a weapon?

Not sure why you characterized this as an article about workplace violence.
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The common denominator to virtually all of these sensational, senseless mass and lone killings (TV reporter in VA, Newtown, Gabby Giffords, CO movie theater, apparently the Texas deputy last week, etc. etc. etc.) is... mental illness.

No easy answers... but we have to acknowledge the problem before we can find solutions!
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The common denominator to virtually all of these sensational, senseless mass and lone killings (TV reporter in VA, Newtown, Gabby Giffords, CO movie theater, apparently the Texas deputy last week, etc. etc. etc.) is... mental illness.

No easy answers... but we have to acknowledge the problem before we can find solutions!
Exactly. Columbine, Va Tech, Sandy Hook, etc. etc. etc. The list goes on and on. Seems like a "troll" type topic. Doubt he gets the response he's expecting.
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Article I had just read about the Aurora, CO shooter was that he made statements to a mental health professional at school that since he failed a major exam and would not be famous through science he would become famous by killing people. It wasn't reported or taken seriously since there was not an intended target.
WHAT?? The mental health professional said he could not justify the 72 hour hold since it was just a random statement. Ought to have his/her license revoked. How can we as a society begin to identify a mental break and get these people off the streets and the help they need if we are all afraid of offending someone?
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The common denominator to virtually all of these sensational, senseless mass and lone killings (TV reporter in VA, Newtown, Gabby Giffords, CO movie theater, apparently the Texas deputy last week, etc. etc. etc.) is... mental illness.

No easy answers... but we have to acknowledge the problem before we can find solutions!
Seems like if we can see people who exhibit signs - like these injustice collectors, wife abusers, stalkers, and any other known indicators - are not permitted to buy guns it would help. The doctor/patient confidentiality thing is harder to do anything about. The doctors need to start taking threats more seriously. I don't know anything else we could try to stop individuals. We could, as a country, insist the media stop showing pictures and profiles of shooters. quit giving them the fame they are killing for. Just report that some creep killed however many and drop it. Stop the copycats that way too.
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Seems like if we can see people who exhibit signs - like these injustice collectors, wife abusers, stalkers, and any other known indicators - are not permitted to buy guns it would help. (1)
The doctor/patient confidentiality thing is harder to do anything about. The doctors need to start taking threats more seriously. I don't know anything else we could try to stop individuals. (2)
We could, as a country, insist the media stop showing pictures and profiles of shooters. quit giving them the fame they are killing for. Just report that some creep killed however many and drop it. Stop the copycats that way too. (3)
(1) These questions exist on the background check...extending the check to private transactions is already a huge topic of debate...illegal gun sales will never be eradicated
(2) Doctors diagnose and treat illness...the backdoor to having them intervene has already occurred via the surgeon general declaring gun violence a national health issue. Bogus.
(3) There is an audience for this coverage. Take the audience away and the coverage goes away. This is a reasonable non-governmental movement which I would support, but doesn't seem to have any traction. Government intervention to mandate this requires imposition on the first amendment...not a solution.
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(1) These questions exist on the background check...extending the check to private transactions is already a huge topic of debate...illegal gun sales will never be eradicated
(2) Doctors diagnose and treat illness...the backdoor to having them intervene has already occurred via the surgeon general declaring gun violence a national health issue. Bogus.
(3) There is an audience for this coverage. Take the audience away and the coverage goes away. This is a reasonable non-governmental movement which I would support, but doesn't seem to have any traction. Government intervention to mandate this requires imposition on the first amendment...not a solution.
All too true
1) Don't we know it.
2) I think docs are VERY serious about doctor/patient. Nothing is going to happen there.
.3) I wasn't suggesting laws against coverage, just wishing people would wise up. This is the one area where we could actually stop some. Then again, now that the nuts can broadcast their sprees on social media, it may be too late for even that.
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