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Lets all say a prayer for those Brave men who are trapped inside the Sago mine
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Been saying them all day.
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For 2 days now...They say we will no something by 9 oclock.
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lets hope its positive i know they found high levels of CO2 in a area but that doesnt mean anything they could be no where near where they tested
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AP just released that one body has been found.

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12 miners just pulled out alive, what a great way for these families to start off the new year. My prayers go out to the family of the dead miner found earlier
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The report I read was that they were all dead, there was some miscommunication about their status but from AP reports they are all dead.

We will keep the family members/friends/coworkers in our prayers
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12 passed away with only 1 surviving.........so sad.
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Terrible miscommunication that the 12 were found alive. Still amazing that one was found alive.

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Saw a show on the mine tragedy on Prime Time. Basically the townspeople were up in arms about being "Lied To".

Now , emotions run high, and it's a close knit community; but why would anyone think they were intentionally 'Lied To' about the miners being alive.

Whose interest would it serve to LIE about something like that.

Must just be a reflection of bad relations between mine management and the miners
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Of course theres bad relations between managment and the miners look at all the violations that mine had against it but the company still kept it open wanting to make money and not fix the violations, I can see the lawsuits starting to roll on this with all those violations I feel terriable for those men and their families, I guess those men really had not choice but to work there being they were at will workers
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strikerthree - 1/6/2006 6:07 PM Of course theres bad relations between managment and the miners look at all the violations that mine had against it but the company still kept it open wanting to make money and not fix the violations, I can see the lawsuits starting to roll on this with all those violations I feel terriable for those men and their families, I guess those men really had not choice but to work there being they were at will workers
I wondered how long it would take you to get to your "union vs.management", "capitolism is evil" crap.

Why not stick to the "Ridgeline Rules" threads, at least they were funny
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http://www.msha.gov/sagomine/SagoQA01052006.asp

A little info from MSHA.
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Fish like it or not its the truth and this is the exact reason why unions were formed years ago

heres a little on the violations they have


n 2004, the Sago Mine reported an injury rate that was three times that of similar-size underground mines across the country.

And last year, the Anker West Virginia Mining Co. operation was fined more than $24,000 for about 200 alleged violations, according to U.S. Mine Safety and Health Administration data.


During the last six months of 2005, the Sago Mine reported a dozen accidental roof falls, according to MSHA records.

Only one of those roof falls caused an injury, the MSHA records show.

Three of the roof falls occurred after International Coal Group finalized its purchase of the Anker operation in mid-November.

During their last three complete examinations of the Sago Mine, MSHA inspectors cited the company for more than 180 violations.

After the most recent such inspection — from early October to late December — MSHA issued 46 citations and three orders for a variety of safety violations. Inspectors listed 18 of those as “serious and substantial.” These “S&S” violations are those that MSHA believes are likely to cause an accident that would seriously injure a miner.

“The numbers don’t sound good,” said Davitt McAteer, a Marion County native who was MSHA chief during the Clinton administration.

In that October to December inspection, MSHA cited the Sago Mine for violating its approved roof control and mine ventilation plans. The company was also cited for violations concerning emergency escapeways and required pre-shift safety examinations.

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Did you read my link?
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dtl66 - 1/6/2006 7:23 PM Did you read my link?
I read it. Confirms the interveiw on news last night. A fed mine inspector stated the mine was safe.

I imagine "strikerthree" could turn a boating accident into a "management vs. worker" altercation.

I am also not so sure "the strike" is not someone on a union built and paid for soapbox posting here to create sympathy and positive propoganda for unions. He has never posted here without some crap union slogan in his "signature.
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dtl66 - 1/6/2006 7:23 PM Did you read my link?
I read it. Confirms the interveiw on news last night. A fed mine inspector stated the mine was safe.

I imagine "strikerthree" could turn a boating accident into a "management vs. worker" altercation.

I am also not so sure "the strike" is not someone on a union built and paid for soapbox posting here to create sympathy and positive propoganda for unions. He has never posted here without some crap union slogan in his "signature.
I only recently put my "crap union slogan" in my signature, its use to read 1986 stamas 18' tarpon 125 merc saltwater / 1978 searay sv24 project boat starting this fall, and my "soapbox" was paid for by me no one else
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I have not personally noticed you pushing union except on the pertaining threads and that is your right by all means. Now from a fellow electrician who is not union but does work in a rock quarry I deal with the metal non metal side of MSHA on a regular basis and these guys do not play. I just wanted everyone to see that what the media failed to tell is that most of these citations were corrected before the inspection was over.
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I saw on the news tonight that if the men had turned around and walked 1500 to 2000 feet further into the mine they would have lived as there was another opening to the mine.

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