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Old 07-20-2015, 05:52 AM
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Every piece of Columbia clothing I have bought in the last couple years has been garbage. The t-shirts shrink unevenly and fade after a few washes. Buttons on shorts fail. And now this.

I got these for Christmas. Have not worn them much and yesterday noticed the sole already falling off. When I opened it up, this is what I saw.
They use a PAPER adhesive insert to attach the sole to the shoe. Im guessing its paper or cardboard piece with an adhesive on each side.

Paper.....because we wouldn't wear flippy floppys anywhere near the water now would we. Pic of this is going to Columbia.
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:58 AM
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All Columbia is going to do when you send them that pic is offer to replace it with another crappy product.
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I wear their PFG Swim shorts religiously and never had a problem.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:01 AM
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On the flip side, you won't look like a nerd anymore.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:05 AM
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Columbia used to sell some high quality outdoor gear. My Columbia hunting parka and rain gear set are both 25 years old and going strong.

Lately, I see more and more cheaply-made stuff with their brand name.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:22 AM
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I get all my PFG stuff from the Columbia store at the outlet mall. No issues here, though the button-up PFG fishing shirts get insanely heavy and sticky when wet.

Good value when not paying full price!
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Their shoes/flops suck....Used to buy their stuff all the time when I got their discount, but after customer service never got back to me on soles coming apart, I stopped buying them.

I do like their Titanium shirts, though. Have had a bunch of those for 10 years or so.
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I have lots of their button up omnishade shirts and have been happy with them. They are light and quick dry. Their pull over PFG shirts are heavy and tend to get really shready after several washings.
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I've been happy with my Columbia shorts and shirts for the most part. But, all these companies seem to start out with high end, quality merchandise. Then, they either have to cut costs to maintain their margins for Wall St. or they get sold to a private equity group who slashes and burns quality.

I had a similiar experience with Sperry. First, some flip flops didn't even last me a season. Then, a pair of boat shoes didn't even last 2 seasons. Bought a different model shoe the next year and the insole came apart in two weeks!! Called Sperry and told them about it. They apologized. Vowed to never buy their stuff again.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:02 AM
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I wear the PFG omni shade long sleeve T shirts when fishing. The silky ones. They last. Buy them on sale, I probably have 15-20 of them. Fishing shorts too. All outlet purchases
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Semi-long story.

Back in early 2000's one of my Florida fishing buddies was dating a gal who was a "textile engineer". She lived in Tampa and would fly down to Honduras every Monday and back home on Friday. Her job was to oversee 2-3 garment factories in a couple different countries down that way. The company provided her with a house and servants. She said typical pay for the garment workers was a few bucks an hour. They made Columbia shirts, some of which sold for $40-50 each.

It was during my go away dinner (I left Florida and moved back to California) in 2005 that she told us she was losing her job. The reason was that her company decided to move production to China where they could pay workers a few cents per hour. I asked about quality and she said that there were people lined up at the gates wanting jobs and if an employee wasn't putting out, they'd grab another from the line and put them to work. This is pure greed and the quest for corporate profits.
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CLang View Post
I wear the PFG omni shade long sleeve T shirts when fishing. The silky ones. They last. Buy them on sale, I probably have 15-20 of them. Fishing shorts too. All outlet purchases
Mee too.

I did learn to quit buying the white ones, one fishing trip and they are pretty much ruined.
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Gary, garment industry employees are now more highly paid in China than Honduras, believe it or not.

The garment industry is almost totally run by POS greedy scumbags- and I LOVE capitalism!!! Yes, the garment industry always pursues the cheapest labor. Where do they flock to? Countries that are at war or were recently devastated by war. Also, countries whose gubbermints are so weak they cannot enforce basic human rights, so you end up with clothes made by 8 year olds whose ankles are chained to a table.

Right now, Honduras is the hot spot because it's the most violent country on earth. Yeah, more violent than Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, even northern Mexico. In the 1980s, what was the most violent place on earth? Yeah, Medellin, Colombia. The garment industry flocked there. Not surprisingly, Medellin is now a model city that is booming economically. Yeah, you guessed it- the garment industry has largely departed.

Other hot spots right now for the garment industry? Vietnam and Bangladesh. You can guess why.

When you see "Made in America" or Canada or Italy or France, chances are the quality is higher. Why? Cuz we cannot compete at the low end of the consumer market. Those of us who manufacture clothes must sell at the high end. So, our quality needs to be high and our level of innovation should lead the markets, whereas the poor countries lag significantly in innovation.

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Still doesn't explain why anyone should pay $50 for a basic fishing shirt made in China.

Or $30 for a goddamn cotton t-shirt.
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:24 AM
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I wouldn't buy New Balance blue jeans, and I wouldn't buy Levi's tennis shoes.

Every company has junk. I try to stick to the high end lines of whatever a company is known for. I've had decent luck, but quality seems to be of secondary concern across the board.
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I cannot wear either flip flops or water shoes. The below is based on research rather than personal experience. Based on this, I would strongly recommend you guys check out Salomon for water shoes.

Salomon made their name in the highly competitive ski equipment market place and have been around... longer than me, I think! That should say something about their expertise.

Recently they have branched out into footwear. Based on online reviews, websites run by super-users of these products who write professional reviews, as well as friends and acquaintances who wear them, I can strongly recommend Salomon shoes!

I think they are on their 3rd generation of the popular water shoe, the Techamphibian.

When my wife wanted new hiking shoes a couple weeks ago, I ordered these Salomons from Amazon:

http://www.rei.com/product/846715/sa...g-shoes-womens

HINT: Before you buy from a retail website, check out the prices at the Salomon website!

Colombia's PFG line. I have never had any trouble with these shirts. They seem to be well made. My problem is... well, I have lots of problems with them, which is why I have designed superior ones. You can see them soon.

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Omni shade heavy shirts and their fishing pants are still top notch.

I where the pants out fishing and then move them to the lawn work pile.

better shoe options out there.
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Thanks for the update Rapi. I just was floored when she told me they were going to close the plants and relocate all the way around the world. Seems to me they were already making a huge profit but that wasn't enough. They still needed more. Interesting about Honduras. I'll need to do some research. BTW, last year my son lived in Bogota for about 6 months. Scared me at first but after doing some research and talking to him, it's actually a fairly safe place now.
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There stuff is just as good as anyone else's at that price point.

Like some one else said stick with what a company is known for. When I think of Columbia I think of upf shirts and winter jackets, not flip flops.
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The dye used on the Columbia cotton fishing shirts is pretty poor quality fading out with only a day or two in the sun. I don't buy them any more.
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