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Old 07-19-2015, 06:28 PM
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Default 104 Tons of Ground Tackle Lost off US Navy Ship

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b10_1437331270

Impressive, hope they recovered it...

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Old 07-19-2015, 08:13 PM
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I'm sure they called sea tow
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:01 PM
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get a couple of cuban snorklers to get the chain
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Oops.

Slight shift in duties may have been ordered for some of those personnel.....
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Old 07-19-2015, 10:07 PM
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This video of the mishap is date-stamped 14 years ago...I expect the issue has been resolved, or, written-off as not cost-effective to recover...shit-happens, even to the big-dogs.

So, don't fret when you have to abandon a $150 Fortress anchor and a few hundred feet of 1/2" nylon rope.

Hopefully, the rode wont get entangled with someone's legs and carry him to the bottom, as it did with a frequent poster on many forums. But, no excuse to fail to secure the "bitter-end" of a rode, brakes or not on the windlass...that's just negligence, but with deep-pockets of the US military, understandable.

"shit, we lost another one"....
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It seems to me in this world of super high tech that there should be some sort of automatic breaking system for this anchor. Maybe the braking system failed?
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" Maybe the braking system failed?"..... I suspect that's exactly what happened. I bet the break on the wildcat let go and they had no way to stop it.
On a ship like that you wouldn't want to secure the end of the chain (especially on a Navy ship!). If you need to get underway fast it is a lot faster to just dump everything overboard and get going than it is to haul everything back..
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An oh shit moment lol.
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Swiss Navy.

Shallow retrieve
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Originally Posted by BostonNS View Post
Swiss Navy.

Shallow retrieve
Don't get it?
Chain not definitely not attached to the ship for several reasons besides what the video shows.
What kind of attachment would stop that.?
How many bosun's mates to pull it up if windlass fails?
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Originally Posted by NedLloyd View Post
On a ship like that you wouldn't want to secure the end of the chain (especially on a Navy ship!). If you need to get underway fast it is a lot faster to just dump everything overboard and get going than it is to haul everything back..
I can't imagine intentionally jettisoning it all just to reach a destination faster, leaving you with limited ability to properly anchor once you arrived, with home port possibly thousands of miles away.

I would think if a quick departure was needed, once the anchor was freed from the bottom, it could continue being retrieved as the ship slowly came up to speed, with a large ship is at a snail's pace. If bitter-end not fastened, it could at least have a ball welded to the end to prevent it passing through the windlass, without intentionally opening a gate to allow it to pass.

And no, I never served in the navy, just seems like common sense.
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Originally Posted by Karl in NY View Post
I can't imagine intentionally jettisoning it all just to reach a destination faster, leaving you with limited ability to properly anchor once you arrived, with home port possibly thousands of miles away.

I would think if a quick departure was needed, once the anchor was freed from the bottom, it could continue being retrieved as the ship slowly came up to speed, with a large ship is at a snail's pace. If bitter-end not fastened, it could at least have a ball welded to the end to prevent it passing through the windlass, without intentionally opening a gate to allow it to pass.

And no, I never served in the navy, just seems like common sense.
Ahhh, think US Navy,.... Think Dec 7, 1941,... Every second counts. When you have to get the hell underway FAST the last thing anyone aboard wants to hear is , " yes commander, we've got a hundred fathoms out, give us twenty minutes to get that up and then we can get out of here." ........ Not likely!
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Originally Posted by NedLloyd View Post
Ahhh, think US Navy,.... Think Dec 7, 1941,... Every second counts. When you have to get the hell underway FAST the last thing anyone aboard wants to hear is , " yes commander, we've got a hundred fathoms out, give us twenty minutes to get that up and then we can get out of here." ........ Not likely!
Big difference between 1941 vs. 2001....but, I'm sure we were fighting someone in 2001, when have we not been?
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Originally Posted by Karl in NY View Post
Big difference between 1941 vs. 2001....but, I'm sure we were fighting someone in 2001, when have we not been?
Oh I completely agree, but I suspect the Navy is still prepared to 'get the heck out of here as fast as possible', and can't wait to retrieve the ground tackle.

....... I did not serve either, and thank all those who have!
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Originally Posted by BLUESMAN View Post
Don't get it?
Chain not definitely not attached to the ship for several reasons besides what the video shows.
What kind of attachment would stop that.?
How many bosun's mates to pull it up if windlass fails?
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Originally Posted by BLUESMAN View Post
How many bosun's mates to pull it up if windlass fails?
Not sure about the Navy but it would only take one USCG Bosun'.
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I worked in a shipyard repairing barges, and we had to go out and set 8 ton anchors with 2 1/2 inch anchor chain occasionally, and I can tell you from experience, when those things render off into the water, there really is no stopping them. I've seen deck fitting that were welded down get ripped off and thrown 20 feet away, and parts of the deck itself getting ripped off.
We would drop the achors and about 300 feet of chain, and the whole barge shook like an earthquake.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAcfaMDcY68


this one gets wild...
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better not lot OSHA see this video
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Originally Posted by Karl in NY View Post
Hopefully, the rode wont get entangled with someone's legs and carry him to the bottom, as it did with a frequent poster on many forums.
What?
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