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Old 07-17-2015, 02:55 PM
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I have had it with safety stuff and I want to disable all of them. On my lawn tractor if you go into reverse with the blades running it will shut off. If I get off of the mower with the motor running it will shut off. A total pain in the ass so I disabled all of the safety crap.

I was trying to cut some limbs off of a tree with my sawzall and I was on a ladder at an awkward angle and I couldn't push in the safety button so I could pull the trigger. Trying to push that stupid button in was a hell of a lot more dangerous. All power tools have safety crap on them, you have to push a button before you can use the trigger. The button is usually in an awkward place making it a pain in the ass to operate.

I know why companies do all of this safety stuff, they are trying to protect idiots. Any normal adult using a power tool doesn't need all of the safety crap. How many of you guys actually like these safety things? I for one hate them and if companies sold power tools without the safety crap I would buy them in a heartbeat even if they cost more.
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I've done the same things. I also drill out those stupid safety gas can nozzles.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:01 PM
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RussH,

A lot of safety stuff has come into exsistance because people are idiots, do something stupid then sue the mfg.
An example might be using a lawn mower as hedge trimmer, while on a ladder.
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RussH,

A lot of safety stuff has come into exsistance because people are idiots, do something stupid then sue the mfg.
An example might be using a lawn mower as hedge trimmer, while on a ladder.
This is 100% correct.

Safety features on this stuff is 100% a "Reactionary" change to getting sued. Aside from being inherently, obviously dangerous, you must have in the owners manual that nobody reads, crap like "never use a chainsaw on a ladder under a powerline in a thunderstorm with children below", etc.

The more courts entertain lawsuits from people like this, and the more personal injury lawyers take cases like this, the worse it'll get until enough folks push enough politicians for tort reform and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

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Originally Posted by aubv View Post
RussH,

A lot of safety stuff has come into exsistance because people are idiots, do something stupid then sue the mfg.
An example might be using a lawn mower as hedge trimmer, while on a ladder.
Who the hell uses a ladder?



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On average nearly 100 people are killed and 20,000 are injured by lawn mowers every year. Some ridiculous number of children are run over by mowers as well. I bet most of them didn't think they were idiots or stupid before it happened to them.

Those safety switches aren't just a reaction to stupidity they are a reaction to lost life and serious injury by a great number of people. Heck we go through ridiculous security theater to get on a plane with a better safety record than lawnmowers.
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On average nearly 100 people are killed and 20,000 are injured by lawn mowers every year. Some ridiculous number of children are run over by mowers as well. I bet most of them didn't think they were idiots or stupid before it happened to them.

Those safety switches aren't just a reaction to stupidity they are a reaction to lost life and serious injury by a great number of people. Heck we go through ridiculous security theater to get on a plane with a better safety record than lawnmowers.
People are stupid when it comes to lawn mowers! I'll give you an example, my father was mowing the lawn when the discharge chute became clogged with grass. What did he do? He bent over and attempted to pick up the mower by the deck, while it was running! Fortunately for him the spinning blades only nicked his fingers and he still has all 10, too bad he doesn't have a lick of sense. Now this is a smart guy. He is a graduate chemical engineer and continues to invest and make a living in the stock market and he is 80 YO. It just makes me wonder.

I know another lady that did something similar, she just lost the tip of her index finger. She was lucky too.

I think people just forget that there are spinning metal blades under the mower deck.

But I agree with the OP, all the safety stuff is a PIA!
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Most all the safety stuff is mandated by the fed thru judges that tried cases because of stupid people hurting or killing themselves or others
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On average nearly 100 people are killed and 20,000 are injured by lawn mowers every year. Some ridiculous number of children are run over by mowers as well. I bet most of them didn't think they were idiots or stupid before it happened to them.

Those safety switches aren't just a reaction to stupidity they are a reaction to lost life and serious injury by a great number of people. Heck we go through ridiculous security theater to get on a plane with a better safety record than lawnmowers.

You mean despite all the safety devices? I don't mow the lawn, use a chain saw, operate a power tool, etc., with children in harms way.

If I do something stupid, it's on me.

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The first thing I do is take the guard off a right angle grinder.
The tool is worthless until you do this.

But, then again, my parents traveled thousands of miles in vehicles on vacations with us kids riding on the package tray behind the back seat.

Very few people have common sense anymore.

It's a very litigious society we live in.
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I noted in my original post that I understand why there is all of the safety crap, it's because people are idiots and look for any reason to sue a company.

I've never had an accident with a lawn mower & I started cutting the grass at home when I was like 12 years old. I did such a good job that I ended up cutting the grass for several people. Unlike most of my friends I always had money, cut grass, clean up crap, etc. in the winter I would shovel snow for money.

When I worked for my brother who builds houses we would make a wood wedge to lock the guards up on our circular saws. When we had to reach up or down I have no doubt that it was far more dangerous trying to get that guard up than with the guard locked up with a wood wedge.

I gave my new stupid assed gas can away, I refused to use it because of the safety BS. I went on eBay and purchased old standard gas cans. I have a battery powered weed wacker that has a safety button that you have to push so you can pull the switch to turn it on. How many people have been seriously injured from a freakin battery powered weed wacker? Jig saw, circular saws, drill, weed wacker, sawzall....all have stupid safety buttons that are awkward to push.
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I have had it with safety stuff and I want to disable all of them. On my lawn tractor if you go into reverse with the blades running it will shut off. If I get off of the mower with the motor running it will shut off. A total pain in the ass so I disabled all of the safety crap.

I was trying to cut some limbs off of a tree with my sawzall and I was on a ladder at an awkward angle and I couldn't push in the safety button so I could pull the trigger. Trying to push that stupid button in was a hell of a lot more dangerous. All power tools have safety crap on them, you have to push a button before you can use the trigger. The button is usually in an awkward place making it a pain in the ass to operate.

I know why companies do all of this safety stuff, they are trying to protect idiots. Any normal adult using a power tool doesn't need all of the safety crap. How many of you guys actually like these safety things? I for one hate them and if companies sold power tools without the safety crap I would buy them in a heartbeat even if they cost more.
It's our own fault.

1) Guy does something stupid with a sawzall or runs over a kid with a lawnower
2) No THTers are on the jury because they all did their best to get out of jury duty.
3) In the courtroom, everyone on the jury feels bad for the fingerless guy or the kid that lost his arm.
4) Jurors figure the big bad company has lots of money, even if it wasn't their fault.
5) Idiots get rewarded/paid for being idiots.
6) Company tries to cover their ass with additional safeties.

It's OUR fault - we are why those things are on there.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:11 PM
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I have mixed opinion on this. I am totally with you that some of the safety stuff just makes things more dangerous. The first thing I did to my table saw was remove the guard! I also disabled my last JD lawn mower's reverse button! But on the new one I didn't, because my son will someday soon be using it, and I think it will be better. When I used to visit industrial plants that made me wear a hard hat, I would constantly hit my head! Wouldn't have hit my head without the hat! Yep, safety shiz sucks, but as soon as they make something idiot proof they start making better idiots!
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I bet most of them didn't think they were idiots or stupid before it happened to them.
Of course they didn't think of themselves as idiots, they are idiots. Are you an idiot?
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I know how you feel, the starter solenoid went out on my lawn tractor so i just jump it with a screw driver. It's a real PIA to keep my ass on the seat and reach forward to do that .
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In my previous job I visited many production companies and one of them was Iam's dog food in Liepsic, OH. When I would go into the production area I had to put on rubber booty looking things that had a steel toe, hard hat, safety glasses, hair net, face net because I had a mustache and beard at the time. I asked the Plant Manager why I had to wear a face and hair net and he said to keep any possible hair out of the dog food. I looked at him and said...."Yeah God forbid a hair would get into the food....my dog licks his ass so I'm not worried about a hair!"
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The "safe" gas cans are about as dangerous as I have ever seen. You cannot possibly fill a tank without spilling some gas all over the place.
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Oh waaaa waaaaa waaaaa!!, You guys should try being LEFT HANDED and try to use all these damn right handed power tools with the RIGHT HANDED safety switches!! I have to wrap my thumb around, or use my other hand to depress the safety switches!! Left handers get the shaft when it comes to power tools, I'll be lucky if I make it through life with all my fingers!!
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Try making sense of it all and you'll go crazy. It is not legal to drive a car without a seat belt but it is legal to drive a motorcycle and in the back of a truck.

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Old 07-18-2015, 03:08 AM
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I like most of the mower stuff. Good to have when kids are using it. Especially the tip over and seat features. My main bitch was the gas cans. But I found those VP racing fuel cans you guys recommended and have spread the word.

Guys - are you sure you cannot operate the blades backing up? Mine has a position between run and off that you can put it in to operate both forward and reverse. (Its a Craftsman 42 inch 22 hp something.)
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