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Slaves picked it .... so does that mean no more cotton shirts are in our future ??
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Slaves picked it .... so does that mean no more cotton shirts are in our future ??


I guess so - it must surely be offensive to some group like the team name "Redskins" is to others.....stupid stuff indeed.

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good point, I expect cotton is on its way out once they think of it.
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wasn't the mechanical cotton harvester invented by a ...


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BLACK MAN /FORMER SLAVE?

Guess those things, and that page of "Black History" need to be removed from the books? Remember, if it isn't in the books it didn't happen. Right?
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Slaves picked it .... so does that mean no more cotton shirts are in our future ??
We doubt it.

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wasn't the mechanical cotton harvester invented by a ...


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BLACK MAN /FORMER SLAVE?

Guess those things, and that page of "Black History" need to be removed from the books? Remember, if it isn't in the books it didn't happen. Right?
William April Ellison, Cotton Gin Builder / Former Slave / Slave owner

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Is cotton used as a calling card by racist groups like the KKK or by racist assholes like Dylan Roof? The Confederate battle flag has been highjacked by so many assholes that I can see how a reasonable person would see it as a symbol of hate.
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Is cotton used as a calling card by racist groups like the KKK or by racist assholes like Dylan Roof? The Confederate battle flag has been highjacked by so many assholes that I can see how a reasonable person would see it as a symbol of hate.
What about this symbol?

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BLACK MAN /FORMER SLAVE?

Guess those things, and that page of "Black History" need to be removed from the books? Remember, if it isn't in the books it didn't happen. Right?
Ever hear of Eli Whitney ?
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Originally Posted by beatcop49 View Post
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The American Flag? It shouldn't be offensive to any American (save perhaps the native ones.) It's origin isn't rooted in a battle which was largely over southern states rights to own slaves and it hasn't routinely been appropriated as a symbol of racism or the calling card of racist assholes. South Carolina didn't hoist it over their state capitol building as a sign of resistance to the civil rights movement. See the difference? That's why I think no governmental entity should fly the Confederate battle flag.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
The American Flag? It shouldn't be offensive to any American (save perhaps the native ones.) It's origin isn't rooted in a battle which was largely over southern states rights to own slaves and it hasn't routinely been appropriated as a symbol of racism or the calling card of racist assholes. South Carolina didn't hoist it over their state capitol building as a sign of resistance to the civil rights movement. See the difference? That's why I think no governmental entity should fly the Confederate battle flag.
The battle flag wasn't a symbol of hate, nor is it now. Just wrongfully used...like the US flag and the Chriatian flag. The US and Christian flag are offensive to several groups, andall it takes is for one special interest group to begin the "I'm offended" mantra, and for a major news network to start working that angle, those icons too will be under the gun.

My point is, any symbol can be "appropriated as a symbol of racism or the calling card of racist assholes". The battle flag means nothing about racism...to me, its entirely different.
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Wonder what my old gggf would say about the whole flag thing. I expect he would say something like don't they have work to do somewhere. BTW - one of his brothers, ironically named Eli, also invented a cotton gin. I have a copy of the patent. Eli Whitney s was first though. All 3 of those brothers participated in the battle of olustee, then two of them were sent to defend Richmond during the final months, where one died in a hospital, after whom my son is named.
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Originally Posted by beatcop49 View Post
The battle flag wasn't a symbol of hate, nor is it now. Just wrongfully used...like the US flag and the Chriatian flag. The US and Christian flag are offensive to several groups, andall it takes is for one special interest group to begin the "I'm offended" mantra, and for a major news network to start working that angle, those icons too will be under the gun.

My point is, any symbol can be "appropriated as a symbol of racism or the calling card of racist assholes". The battle flag means nothing about racism...to me, its entirely different.
Not really. It would be unrealistic to say that in most cases where the confederate flag is being flown that there isn't at least some racist intent. South Carolina began flying the confederate flag in 1961 in protest to desegregation. It needed to come down.
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Not really. It would be unrealistic to say that in most cases where the confederate flag is being flown that there isn't at least some racist intent. South Carolina began flying the confederate flag in 1961 in protest to desegregation. It needed to come down.
What's "unrealistic" is that one actually believes that every time it's flown, there is "at least some racist intent."
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What's "unrealistic" is that one actually believes that every time it's flown, there is "at least some racist intent."
Are you ever accurate/honest? "Most" and "every" are not the same.
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When I see it in a in a historical sense , in a reenactment or some kind of war memorial I see it in that light. And honestly I had begun to buy into the concept that it wasn't flown with any "racist" intent by most of the people that flew it. And then I took a walk in the down in the bilge for one day. The things I read down there by many of the same people that are up in arms over the treatment of the flag ,convinced me more than ever that that flag probably isn't being mistreated now.

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Mississippi State flag is next.
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