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Old 07-14-2015, 08:19 AM
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THT Community:

Just received a request from the Boat US Government Affairs section:




July 13, 2015

Dear BoatU.S. Member-

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is asking for comments on a proposal to increase the amount of ethanol that must be blended into the nation’s fuel supply for 2015 and 2016. If adopted, these proposed levels will require the use of a record amount of ethanol, forcing higher-level fuel blends (including E15 or 15% ethanol) into more gas stations. Remember that most marine engines are built to only work with up to 10% ethanol and it is prohibited to use gas containing more than 10% ethanol in all marine engines.

Please take a moment to send a message NOW urging the EPA to lower the ethanol mandates to ensure an adequate supply of fuel that will work in your boat.

Background:

The Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) is the 2005 law that requires the blending of biofuels such as corn-ethanol into our gasoline. When written, it was assumed that America’s use of gasoline would continue to rise and therefore mandated escalating amounts of biofuels to be blended with our fuel. Since 2005, U.S. gasoline usage has actually dropped steadily and now the law forces more ethanol into fewer gallons of gasoline.

To keep up with this mandate, in 2010 the EPA permitted E15 (fuel containing up to 15% ethanol) into the marketplace, for some engines. E15 is prohibited from being used in marine engines, snowmobiles, motorcycles, small engines like lawnmowers and leaf blowers, as well as any vehicle made before 2001. In multiple studies, E15 has been proven to damage boat engines.

E15 and higher ethanol blends fuel can now be found in 24 states, often at the very same pumps as E10 gasoline. The only warning you may have is one sticker mixed in with all the other warning labels on the pump. This creates a huge potential for mis-fueling and puts boaters at risk of using fuel that will damage their engines. CLICK HERE for more information on E15 and the Renewable Fuel Standard.

Thanks for being a BoatU.S. member and for taking action to let EPA hear how you care about the ethanol level in the fuel you buy for your boat engine. Help us out and please FORWARD TO A FRIEND.

Sincerely,

Margaret B. Podlich
President, BoatU.S.



This is a serious issue affecting all boaters using gasoline. Please respond. If we do nothing . . . we have no one else to blame but ourselves.


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Unbelievable!

If anything the EPA should be considering eliminating Ethanol from gasoline.
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I'm sure the EPA will be attentive to my letter. (Sarcastic font)
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Sending/signing that petition will most definitely land you on the terrorist watch list.
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Default EPA attentiveness to your letter . . .

Let's look at some background - ask your congressman: "Why do we put ethanol in our gasoline?" and listen to their nonsensical answers.

Green Energy? - in May, 2015 study of just one ethanol plant in Decatur, IL found that emissions of the facility were 30 times higher than government estimates.

Green Energy? - Columbia University released a study that showed 95% of ethanol in the U.S. comes from corn & corn-based ethanol is controversial because of the amount of land required to grow the crops, and because of its effect on food prices and water.

Corn ethanol requires three bushels of corn to produce one gallon of ethanol. To produce a single tank of 25 gallons of ethanol will use enough corn to feed an adult for one full year. BTW even the UN has realized the effect that corn ethanol has had on world food supplies and no longer supports corn based ethanol production.

After all, the President (Jimmy Carter) who: a) created the EPA, and b) predicted the world would run out of oil in the first decade of the 21st Century - was not exactly a "wizard of smart".

FYI production of petroleum productin in the US has now exceeded that of Russia and even Saudi Arabia.

Lastly, for those who don't think we cannot influence the "high and mighty" . . . Ask yourself what happened to the Time Warner/Comcast Cable merger which was planned to occur this year?

Hundreds of thousands of complaints surfaced just days before the merger was to be approved by the FCC. Remember, the CEO's of both Time Warner Cable & Comcast are two of our current Presidents' most frequent golfing buddies. Nevertheless, due to public outcry, the Time Warner Cable/Comcast merger was turned down by the FCC.

You can change the debate. Send your comments. Meet with your Congressman. Call them when they appear on local talk radio shows or have "town hall meetings".

The alternatives are, if we do nothing - nothing will change - and your marine engines will have significantly shorter operating lives . . .



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Originally Posted by NJFISH View Post
Sending/signing that petition will most definitely land you on the terrorist watch list.
Yep, if not it will definitely trigger an audit form the IRS.
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Bottom Scratcher,

Please get your facts straight before slamming the wrong president

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...tection_Agency
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I got it too and I signed the petition. Is Ethanol cheap enough as compared to gas?
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It's not just boats

Lawn equipment : Chain Saws, Weed eaters, Tillers, Lawn Mowers, home owner grade generators will not run on fuel with more than 10% ethanol
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Default Not to be "picky" . . .

Not to be picky Willy, but Wikipedia is not the gospel truth when it comes to sourcing data.

Actually, Jimmy Carter was quoted in the March 4th, 1977 edition of the New York Times:

". . . the world's oil would disappear in the first decade of the 21st Century".

Article was entitled: "Jimmy Carter : World To Run Out Of Oil By 2010"



President "Jimma" also said in his Energy Address to the Nation, (April 18, 1977):

“The oil and natural gas that we rely on for 75 percent of our energy are simply running out.… World oil production can probably keep going up for another 6 or 8 years. But sometime in the 1980’s, it can’t go up any more. Demand will overtake production. We have no choice about that.”

“To some degree, the sacrifices will be painful—but so is any meaningful sacrifice. It will lead to some higher costs and to some greater inconvenience for everyone. But the sacrifices can be gradual, realistic, and they are necessary.”

Unfortunately, both he, and his "wizards of smart" were completely wrong.
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After all, the President (Richard Nixon) who: a) created the EPA,

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Fixed it for you
Carter didn't become president until 1977

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1970-72: Created EPA which passed Clean Air Act

While there was some hesitation and concern regarding Nixon's intentions in creating the EPA, there is a general consensus that Nixon's true motivation was to purify the nation from an environmental standpoint. Disillusioned by the lack of cooperation and cohesion on environmental policy, as well as by the overall ineffectiveness of the NEPA, Nixon utilized an executive order to create the EPA, an independent government organization, in late 1970. The EPA subsequently passed its first piece of legislation, the Clean Air Act, in 1972. While Nixon is generally scorned as a presidential figure, his actions in the environmental realm appear, by most accounts, to have been genuine and thorough and are often overlooked in the historical record.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
After all, the President (Richard Nixon) who: a) created the EPA,

Fixed it for you
Carter didn't become president until 1977[/QUOTE]


Thanks, Th . . .

for your service too . . .



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Who cares who started what agency? Did you all fill out the form to help (or try) stop them from further screwing things up?
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Indeed Republican William Ruckelshaus was the first EPA administrator appointed by Nixon.

Does no good though. Alcohol and IC engines do not mix. I suspect it is still a net energy loss. My Manuaul for my Carver engines say do not use ANY ethanol .

The heck with EPA write your congressmen. But don't be too hopeful - Big Agra has polluted both parties with lots and lots of $$$$$
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We can argue about who started the EPA later. Sign the petition.

And I will add a shameless plug for my long ago employer - Like them or not, buy at least the minimum Boat/U.S. membership each year. One of the many things those very few dollars are funding, is a four person ( it was four when I worked at HQ) Govt. Affairs staff that does nothing but lobby, annoy, and arm twist on boating related issues. And we need them doing it.
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Signed it when I got the email, ethanol has personally caused me tons of anguish and expense!
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Who cares who started what agency? Did you all fill out the form to help (or try) stop them from further screwing things up?
I signed it.Just have a issue when something is blamed on someone and they did not have a thing to do with it.
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I signed the letter from a couple of months ago. Got an eMail back from Rubio (R-Fla) that told me in a nice way to shove it, he supports the RFS.
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