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Old 07-08-2015, 07:57 AM
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Family and I will be in N.western Pa. for vacation end on July. I was thinking my kids are now old enough that taking them to Niagra falls for a overnighter would be fun. My last experience going across the border all the wife and I needed was a photo ID. That was 10 yrs. ago or more . What is proper documents for US/Canada border cross these days ? children are 11,8,7.
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:35 AM
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Post 9/11 is a whole new world when it comes to border crossings. Now, everyone needs a passport.
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Looks as though we will be staying on US side .... If memory serves me correct there is a hell of a lot more to do on Canadian side esp. with kids. Oh well maybe next year.
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There's more to do on the Canuck side, but you can get the nice views from the US side that kids that age will remember.
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I was surprised when I went. Looked over to the Canadian side and it looked like alot more fun. Niagra was a bit depressing. So I went to the casino.
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Living in Michigan I get across the border a lot.
It used to be like walking across the street to your neighbor's place. Now.........not so much.

Last year I was going to see a client interested in a wood burning boiler line that I sell and had my hand tool bag in the back, as always. The Canadian border guard wanted to know all the usual stuff. Who you are, drivers license, occupation, where are you goin, do you have any firearms, yada yada yada.
Then he noticed my hand tools, put that together with the fact I was going to see a client and decided I should go see the people in customs and immigration.
Oy!
I pulled off to the inspection parking lot, went up to the counter and handed the uniform there the paperwork sent along by the border guard.
Then I waited, and waited, and waited. 2-1/2 hours later I get called into the Gestapo interrogation room and find 2 guys waiting for me. After a bunch of questions about what EXACTLY I did and what EXACTLY I was here for they determined that I wasn't stealing a Canadian job and it was OK if I entered their country.
They reminded me I was in a foreign country and I was most definitely under the jurisdiction of their laws. ..... Which said that I could perform no work for pay on their turf. Canadian jobs were at stake here!!! A sales call was OK but they dang near made me leave my hand tools at the border.

My Stars! You'd think I was there to pilfer the Canuck equivalent of the Federal Reserve!!!

Now, getting back in to the US.....You have to have a passport or an enhanced drivers license at the least. I know a couple of people that got really messed up trying to come back in without those docs. Get them for your kids too.
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lots more to do on our side.. the scream houses are quite fun for kids and the wax museum. good food too.

get your passports and come on up
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lots more to do on our side.. the scream houses are quite fun for kids and the wax museum. good food too.

get your passports and come on up
don't have time between now and already scheduled vacation to get passports or passcards. Wishing we did. Will have to settle for our side this trip and maybe a re-do on your side next year.
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I was told however that children under 16 only needed valid birth certificate not a passport . But wife and I need them as well. 3 weeks is quickest expedite and we leave Carolinas in about 2 weeks .
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Originally Posted by builder buoy View Post
Post 9/11 is a whole new world when it comes to border crossings. Now, everyone needs a passport.
No they dont. Canada does not require a passport from US Citizens. CBP may give you (adults) a hard time coming back if you dont have one. However they cannot legally prevent a US citizen from coming back to the country. You will have to prove your citizenship somehow. Expanded drivers licenses or a passport card will work as will some other documents depending on the Officer. Children under 16 traveling with their parents or a legal guardian with a parental consent letter only need a US birth certificate.
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Originally Posted by damnedifido View Post
No they dont. Canada does not require a passport from US Citizens. CBP may give you (adults) a hard time coming back if you dont have one. However they cannot legally prevent a US citizen from coming back to the country. You will have to prove your citizenship somehow. Expanded drivers licenses or a passport card will work as will some other documents depending on the Officer. Children under 16 traveling with their parents or a legal guardian with a parental consent letter only need a US birth certificate.
i totally stand corrected. i just checked thr canadian border services site and this is correct.
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i totally stand corrected. i just checked thr canadian border services site and this is correct.
So you do not need a passport to go to Canada?
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So you do not need a passport to go to Canada?

That is correct. You do not need it going in but you need it or some other enhanced ID to get back in the US.
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Originally Posted by s_ebels View Post
That is correct. You do not need it going in but you need it or some other enhanced ID to get back in the US.
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The wife and I cross over quite a bit from Detroit to Windsor. One time she headed over to Windsor and the Canadian Border Patrol Officer actually asked her how much $$ she made. I would have told them its none of their business.
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The quickest form of ID to get that will allow you to cross is an enhanced drivers license. Usually 7 to 10 days to get one here, then birth certs for your kids.
It woulld be well worth the effort. Lots more to do on the Canadian side.
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It sounds like we should hire the Canadians to protect our borders on the south.
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Just a comment...

Unless things have changed since I was crossing over, and if they have its likely for the worse...

The Canadian Border patrol officers have no sense of humor. Don't even try to crack a joke or anything. I think they are taught to interpret jokes as suspicious behavior.
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Based on quick Google search I can't find anything that states South Carolina offers a enhanced drivers license . Someone please post and tell me otherwise .....
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It sounds like we should hire the Canadians to protect our borders on the south.
Hahhahhahha!
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