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Old 07-05-2015, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by runabout View Post
I didn't take it as you were singling me out. It is his money and he can do what he wants. Rebel flag or not, I was just saying he was being an idiot for destroying the value of the car, it's a poor business decision. The car is an asset and that asset has value because of it's history and present condition. Change the condition and you kill the value of the asset. I think he should sell the car and donate the proceeds to Al Sharpton.
I'm sure you are right about him devaluing the car by changing the flag. I'm sure he knows that and decided he can afford to take the hit. I wonder if anyone has offered to buy it?

Originally Posted by Barnacled View Post
IMHO the different flag argument is an irrelevant point. The US flag at that time was not the same one we celebrate today.
The whole flag shit storm is ridiculous but it's another step in stripping the freedoms we used to enjoy.
I think it's quite relevant in light of the argument so many use about it being part of their heritage. My point being that not many can claim a direct line to that particular flag yet they claim it as "heritage". While it's true that the US flag is not the same as the one flying during the civil war, there is a direct connection between the two.

I agree that this flag thing is ridiculous but what freedom has been stripped away because of it?
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:20 AM
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He's the most disliked player on tour, and this proves he's a king size d-bag.

Hopefully he's smart enough to do his flag thing with a wrap that can be removed instead of ruining a car that has some provenance.
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:31 AM
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I don't see all this big deal, about the flag of losers
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OReely View Post
Well, I wasn't singling you out if that's what you think.

I see him putting his money where his mouth is. Lots of people talk a big game but he is actually standing up for his principles. And for his stance, he's being called a pussy, a candy ass, and yes, even an idiot.
Yes he is being called a ball less pussy, because he is a ball less pussy. He should have sold the original unaltered car to a collector that actually has balls
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 805gregg View Post
I don't see all this big deal, about the flag of losers
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 805gregg View Post
I don't see all this big deal, about the flag of losers
Cali is like a good fart you never can trust it cause its probably full of crap anyway......., then again nobody cares about the left coast anyway so no big deal...
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by OReely View Post

I agree that this flag thing is ridiculous but what freedom has been stripped away because of it?
Freedom from oppression man.

Seriously I think the cause-in this case a hateful nutjob murderer with a confederate flag fetish- and the effect-nationwide purging of what many consider a part of heritage and history-
is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
To remove it because a hate group has adopted it as their symbol is akin to persecuting ALL Muslims because of ISIL.
It has spurred my Governor to remove this flag from our capitol and the symbol from our state flag without any voice from his constituents. This IMO is govt. oppression.
While I don't display the flag, I have grown up () with it in its present form as part of my southern heritage.
I spent my teen years working at a resort near here in the Heart of Dixie-home of racial prejudice and discrimination in the eyes of many- with over 400 employees. The majority were black and I made some lifelong friendships there. I never heard the word racism and as a whole we all got along very well.
I have never seen the hate and division between races as high as it is today across the country but it has not taken hold here yet thank God.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OReely View Post
As I understand it, the issue of the battle flag doesn't have anything to do with homosexuality (despite some trying to link the two in this thread). But I'm sure you know better than me.

Here's my stance on the whole thing - the flag has been usurped by racists. Any relationship to heritage, a tenuous relationship at best, has been overtaken by the racism linked to the flag in the minds eyes of most Americans. If you can't see the connection with this flag to racist views, then it is my opinion that you are either lying to yourself or you have the proverbial blinders on. You can call it PC if you want. I call it reality.

Now, before you start calling me names, please know that my father's ancestry is comprised of poor farmers in Tennessee from before the civil war and some served in battle. Some were wounded, some were killed. The thing that is relevant here is it is my understanding that not one of them fought under the flag in question. Although that flag is not my heritage, the civil war is. I have as much right to claim southern heritage as anyone yet I don't run around with the flag on my truck. My guess is that very few could actually say that they had relatives fighting under that flag.

If you want to fly the flag feel free. If you think it's all about "heritage", continue to believe as you wish. If you think it's a racist symbol, you are free to feel that way as well. Believe what you want, live how you want. Bubba does.
It's about the credibility you are assigning him that he doesn't have.

You should try not to personalize these issues, there are too many and life is short.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:29 AM
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I read on another thread about the bakers in OR who had to pay 100k+ fine for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake.
Walmart refuses to sell confederate flags to rednecks.
Do we have a case counsellor?
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Andrew Wilkow had an interesting take on this.

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