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Old 07-12-2015, 02:36 PM
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Minor update, the kid got her results for AP test and she passed, granted she got the lowest grade (3 out of 5) but she passed. I guess only 50% of students pass this test, so she is a little pumped. She finally told me the other day she wants to go to University of Florida, now we just have to figure out for what major. But we're moving in the right direction, I think.
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Old 07-12-2015, 03:20 PM
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:18 AM
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Florida has a beautiful campus. She will love it there. Plus Satchel's pizza is cool and unique.
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:41 AM
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Dude, you are going at this ass backwards. Pick the major and then pick the school. University of Florida may not offer what she wants. For instance, if she wants to be in the medical field you pick a school that offers that. Engineering the same thing. If she puts in 2 years at UF and then has to transfer she could potentially not be able to transfer all her classes. Then it takes more than 4 years to graduate and costs you more money.
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Unless it's really specialized, it's pretty hard to screw up a major from UF. I will say I don't feel as smart as I did in high school. The days of not studying and getting all A's are long gone. I have an exam tonight that has over 400 pages of reading to study
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Minor update, the kid got her results for AP test and she passed, granted she got the lowest grade (3 out of 5) but she passed. I guess only 50% of students pass this test, so she is a little pumped. She finally told me the other day she wants to go to University of Florida, now we just have to figure out for what major. But we're moving in the right direction, I think.
Congrats to you and her. That's a nice college and she'll do fine.
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Unless it's really specialized, it's pretty hard to screw up a major from UF. I will say I don't feel as smart as I did in high school. The days of not studying and getting all A's are long gone. I have an exam tonight that has over 400 pages of reading to study


I must disagree with your premise that schools are somehow harder today than they were years ago. As with most things in life today, the dumbing down of education has been going full bore for decades now. Every time you turn around the state exams are being dropped due to the horrendous pass/fail rate. Standardized tests are being replaced because kids can't test out of Highschool.

Your example of 400 pages of reading material that you must consum in one night, I would venture to guess is not due to your teacher suddenly telling the class," by the way students, there's a test tomorrow and it's on these 400 pages of notes", in this nanny world, that teacher would last 5 minutes before being called into the deans office. I saw it first hand when my son taught at MIT, those kids latterly expected answers to be handed to them, what a joke. Very, very sad I my opinion.
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I must disagree with your premise that schools are somehow harder today than they were years ago. As with most things in life today, the dumbing down of education has been going full bore for decades now. Every time you turn around the state exams are being dropped due to the horrendous pass/fail rate. Standardized tests are being replaced because kids can't test out of Highschool.

Your example of 400 pages of reading material that you must consum in one night, I would venture to guess is not due to your teacher suddenly telling the class," by the way students, there's a test tomorrow and it's on these 400 pages of notes", in this nanny world, that teacher would last 5 minutes before being called into the deans office. I saw it first hand when my son taught at MIT, those kids latterly expected answers to be handed to them, what a joke. Very, very sad I my opinion.
I said, or at least meant, neither of those, though scholarship requirements are getting tighter every year. The minimum score for SAT/ACT to get bright futures seems to go up almost every other year.

I did not say my reading was given to me yesterday. We have 8 hours of lectures per week to watch to go with the reading that keep us on track for just this class (business law). Whether or not i procrastinate is debatable!

I cant really compare if education has dumbed down over the years, because i wasnt around to figure that out.

People are dumbing down in some areas though, right about now people my age and 2 years older than me are realizing what they have done by screwing around in high school.
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What I see is more of a spread coming out of high school every year. Because there's a huge push to have high school diplomas for everyone, it has become easier than ever to get one. But choosing a more challenging path generally results in more work for students than ever before. So what we really need are two or more degrees that represent different levels of education. Yes I realize that soon enough there'd be an easy way to get the tougher diploma because no one would want to hire the lesser, just like "college prep" classes today are often the lower difficulty level, "honors" are medium, there's no "general" and no "remedial", and only the AP/IB classes are really challenging.

In the eyes of college admissions departments, I suppose the "more challenging" diploma is represented by having passed a number of AP/IB classes.
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As with income, the gap in academic achievement is widening. I am confident that, notwithstanding the nanny state or anything else, our country's top students are better than their counterparts from my generation. Better in the sense that they work harder, learn more, and must achieve more (to gain admission to top schools) than at any time in the past.
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As with income, the gap in academic achievement is widening. I am confident that, notwithstanding the nanny state or anything else, our country's top students are better than their counterparts from my generation. Better in the sense that they work harder, learn more, and must achieve more (to gain admission to top schools) than at any time in the past.
I agree with this. Just look at admission requirements for a lot of State schools - UGA, UF, Texas, etc. It is harder to get into most of these places than it ever has been.

Congrats on her choosing UF (that really hurts for me to say) but all jorts jokes aside it is a good school and I'm sure she'll do great!
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Minor update, the kid got her results for AP test and she passed, granted she got the lowest grade (3 out of 5) but she passed. I guess only 50% of students pass this test, so she is a little pumped. She finally told me the other day she wants to go to University of Florida, now we just have to figure out for what major. But we're moving in the right direction, I think.
Both of my kids have Master's degrees in engineering--one (the girl) is Aerospace and Mechanical, the other (boy) is Mechanical and Nuclear. Both are on their own, making good money and all is right with the world.
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:49 AM
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Another update. Daughter took the ACT again, after more tutoring and $$. She received a 28, which she was very excited about, she also received several reference letters from her teachers and guidance counselor. She applied for University of Florida and for University of South Florida St. Pete, which is a very small school. Does any one know anyone who attended this school and can offer any feedback? Anyway, I'm very proud of my kid and cant wait until 2/14/16 when she finds out of she gets into Gainesville.
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Great news and congrats! Fingers crossed for UF - I've lived all over the country and can tell you UF has a great national reputation.
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Do what I did. Save money and go to a local community college. Take Gen Ed classes and a few electives. You can probably get a full ride scholarship, I was actually paid $600/semester on top of full ride (and I barely passed 1 AP and graduated with a 3.something GPA).
I went in not knowing what I wanted to do. Took some intro classes and I liked psychology and US Gov. Graduated with my A.A and took 50/50 US Gov and Psychology classes at a 4 year University. This means I skipped all the stupid 400+ people classes and started university as a junior with 35 people in each class. No T.As, only Proffessors.
I realized real quick Psychology took a lot of work, and politics was easy. Graduated with my B.A. and now I work in an orange grove and on a ranch.
I make more not using my degree than I would with it, but it's a good fall back.
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Do what I did. Save money and go to a local community college. Take Gen Ed classes and a few electives. You can probably get a full ride scholarship, I was actually paid $600/semester on top of full ride (and I barely passed 1 AP and graduated with a 3.something GPA).
I went in not knowing what I wanted to do. Took some intro classes and I liked psychology and US Gov. Graduated with my A.A and took 50/50 US Gov and Psychology classes at a 4 year University. This means I skipped all the stupid 400+ people classes and started university as a junior with 35 people in each class. No T.As, only Proffessors.
I realized real quick Psychology took a lot of work, and politics was easy. Graduated with my B.A. and now I work in an orange grove and on a ranch.
I make more not using my degree than I would with it, but it's a good fall back.
Sounds like this is the best way to miss out on half of college. Best four years cut into two....

I never once had a class with 400+ people in my 5 years at a big state school, probably never more than 100 in the big lectures. Averaged about 25 in all the other classes.
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Another update. Daughter took the ACT again, after more tutoring and $$. She received a 28, which she was very excited about, she also received several reference letters from her teachers and guidance counselor. She applied for University of Florida and for University of South Florida St. Pete, which is a very small school. Does any one know anyone who attended this school and can offer any feedback? Anyway, I'm very proud of my kid and cant wait until 2/14/16 when she finds out of she gets into Gainesville.
I'm a current student at UF, awesome school and not something she would regret. I also have friends that attend USF st pete. They have no complaints and seem to enjoy it, but of course is not as "prestigious" as UF.

If you have any questions about UF from a current student, feel free to ask. Oh, and if it makes you feel better, I Didn't get a 28 on the act. I did do early college and stuff that helped though.

Good luck!
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I'm a current student at UF, awesome school and not something she would regret. I also have friends that attend USF st pete. They have no complaints and seem to enjoy it, but of course is not as "prestigious" as UF.

If you have any questions about UF from a current student, feel free to ask. Oh, and if it makes you feel better, I Didn't get a 28 on the act. I did do early college and stuff that helped though.

Good luck!
Thank you for the offer, I intend to take you up on that. She will graduate HS with 40 credit hours from dual enrollment. She also applied to FSU, ugh, we'll see what happens.
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Haha! Have to do it. I applied to UF, FSU, and USF. Once I got into UF I couldn't care less about the others. I had wanted to go there since 2nd grade.

With a 28 Act and 40 credit hours coming in, I believe she will be wearing orange and blue next year. For reference I got a 26 ACT and had 63 credit hours dual enrollment when I graduated high school, I also played sports and honor society and all that, but the dual enrollment really helps the most.

Only regret of it all is I only have 2 years here! It goes too fast
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