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Old 12-12-2005, 01:56 PM
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I am not one who dives into the details of what makes one TV better than the next; however, I want a quality product with a quality picture. I am not interested in a flat screen (thin).
The TV that has got my attention is the Sony KDS R50XBR1. All of the reviews I have read are pretty positive.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on Sony's XBR series?

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Old 12-12-2005, 02:14 PM
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I have the 52" Sony Wega projection and love it. crystal clear HD, not as great on the regular channels but it looks good. Not "thin" but not huge either.
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we have the 32" flat LCD XBR. Great picture. You are also correct that it has great reviews. They are a tad more expensive to comparable TV's in the same size.

The hometheaterforum.com is good place to look for reviews as well. Those guys over there are just as crazy about electronics are the guys here about boats.

Also, make sure you use the HDMI cable. You get a better picture over the composite.
Old 12-12-2005, 03:59 PM
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The letters X, B and R are synonomous when it comes to top of the line TV's.

I always buy the line just below the XBR because the XBR is loaded with more bells and whistles than I need.
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Well, the decision is made, it will be the Sony. Now comes the hard part, where to buy. I shopped for the TV at Circuit City and since this all began their price has increased $200.00. They are the cheapest in town, but on the internet the same unit can be had for $1000.00 less before adding the shipping charges. Interestingly enough, the shipping charges are equal to the sales tax I would have to pay. Soooo the question becomes do I save the $1000.00 and risk shipping damage, or do I pay the extra to shop locally at a national chain? According to Circuit City price matching policy they will only match a price from a local store, not from the internet.
Has anyone ever made a similar purchase over the internet and were you satisfied?
Please help motivate me in the right direction.

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Old 12-21-2005, 08:30 AM
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I purchased 2 TV's from a website, the latest being last month. I got a 42" plasma at $800 less (including shipping) than any local brick store.

Damage is not an issue to worry about, check the outer package upon delivery if the box is damaged refuse delivery. If the TV is damaged or not working after you have accepted delivery you still have 24 hour to report the damage to the seller with no questions asked right to return the unit for another one or full refund.

You can find out a bunch of info here http://avsforum.com and see the certified dealers that will treat you right.
Old 12-21-2005, 09:14 AM
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When I bought our 52" DLP, I searched and searched the net for the best deal I could find. Once I found it, I printed it out and away I went with the wife in tow. Figured I better let her get an idea of what I wanted to buy. Just so happened that Best Buys had the unit I was interested in. The wife and I were standing in front of it discussing the picture quality, etc. She says to me within ear shot of one of the sales people - well, why don't we just get it now. To which I answer with - We can get a better deal online.
Well, the sales guy was the dept manager, and he come over and asks a few questions about the online deal. I tell him the story about the research etc. He goes to me - Can you prove that you found that price. I pulled the print out out of my back pocket and hand it to him. He says - If I match the price would you buy it today. I look at the wife, I get alittle nod and say - SOLD!
Saved $800 from the listed price of the unit in the store.

So - what I'm saying here is give this approach a try, can't hurt to try.

Oh - I did the same thing with the Home Theater System, saved $60, but that was more difficult for some reason. I was persistant about it and they gave in.
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I have found that Circuit City is not at all willing to work with you on a price but Best Buy will atleast try. This is only my personal experience. There are a couple of friends that had real good luckwith onecall.com. They even claim you get a better price on a unit if you call them on the phone versus looking at their online pricing. Might be worth looking into.
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I shucked out some big change for a HDTV. When I got it home I took it out of the box and was PO'd. It didn't have the Harley logo on it anywhere. I took it back. Ripoffs.
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I ordered my 42" plasma online from a place called "plasma depot"

They beat the pants off my best price anywhere here in town.
I was very apprehensive about buying such a big, fragile thing on-line. I even bought the extended warantees, which I normally never do. As it turned out, the unit arrived in good shape, even if it had been smashed, everything would have been fine, I honestly believe Plasma Depot would have replaced it, no problems, However, once it has safely made it to you in good condition, your warrantee is with the Manufacturer, not with the seller.


Where i did have a problem was more subtlle, and after the fact, It looked as if one of the expansion slots was not working properly. The TV was only a week or two old, I couldn't get one of the expansion input cards to work, and I discovered that the Panasonic warrantee is virtually WORTHLESS, the nearest service center to me is in Richmond, 200 miles round trip, I would have to carry the unit to them, leave it, PAY them to check it out, and then, seek reimbursement from Panasonic. This is brand spanking new, never been used, right out of the box!

Fortunately, I finally spoke with a panasonic engineer informally, (who I was connected to BY MISTAKE!), "off the record". He gave me a very simple check to do, and I solved the problem myself. (There was nothing wrong with my TV, it was the signal source), and He knew it the minute I told him the symptoms, thank goodness, I will bet that the service center technician knew it to, But he wanted me to travel 400 miles, leave the TV overnight, and pay the diagnostic fee just to say "your DVD player must have a bad cable."

The "authorized service center" in Richmond would not give me the time of day, except "we can not answer questions unless your TV is in our shop".

This is a case where it might have been nice to have an actual store to walk into and raise a fuss. I did save quite a sum of money on the purchase, but the Panasonic service center in Richmond VA really sux.
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I know the HD Tv's are all the rave, but IMHO they are not worth the money yet.
What you spend your money on something that you can't even use. How many channels are actually broadcast in HD? What maybe a 1/10? So how's that make any sence at all in buying into something that you can't really benefit from? It's stupid in my books, but hey the marketers are doing one hell'va job aren't they.
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I have the Sony 55" DLP screen. Love it. Use the VIVID picture mode for NFL football, and STD for the rest of the viewing. There's some type of pseudo surround sound in the set that actually throws the sound around pretty good without a surround sound received. My ran about $3500 from sears. (They were having a twice a year super dooper sale of some time and actually beat circuit city and best buy that day)

Takes a while for the set to come on. It actually gives a poorer picture than a regular TV of regular cable/satelite signals, but the HDTV picture is fantastic.

Get a set that is HDTV rather than the HD-ready set. That way you can pick up the local channels with rabbit ears. HDTV with rabbit ears is better than the darned cable. Go figure!!

HDTV ready sets only work with a set top box. An HDTV set has the set top box already inside the TV. Here in Charleston SC you can get ABC, NBC, CBS, and three Commie Public NPR stations with rabbit ears, and it's free. You do have to frig around with the antenna to get each signal, but again, for games and the like it's worth it.

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Order from CRUTCHFIELD.COM

I got FREE shipping - 2 days at my door and in home. Best Buy and Circuit City wanted $30 or more and they are just down the block.

I also got a FREE STAND.. SONY STAND.. SONY $900 STAND!!!! FREE FREE...

That's right, Crutchfield was having a free stand with any Sony purchase a year ago. Call 'em and see.. The stand is absolutely a work of art and is made for the TV and locks onto the TV so it will not tip over.

So, I basically got mine for more than a $1k less than any of the local electronics shops could even come close to matching.

Now, here's the clincher.. Buy the 5 year warranty.. It's only $300 and IN HOME SEVICE with replacement of equal or better model (if no longer available).. That's hundreds less than the best warranty from Best Buy and Circuit City and the in-home with replacement of it can't be touched. Yes, crutchfield does include replacement bulbs as part of their warranty. One bulb replacement and the warranty is paid for..
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Crutchfield $3999.99 Free Shipping
Circuit City $3799.99 + Tax(7%)
Best Buy $3999.99 + Tax(7%)
PC and Plasma $2699.99 + Shipping(299.99) No Tax

There are other sites with prices similar to PC and Plasma. Went to both CC and BB this afternoon and neither of them wanted to make a sale and match the price of PC and Plasma. One salesman(Kid) told me "Sony would not honor the 12 month factory warranty because it was purchased below MSRP and if I wanted to take a chance on buying it from a website than go ahead." I told him the $1200.00 I am saving is worth the risk to me.
As far as the picture, the TV is a gift for my inlaws. I will only get to watch it every other week or so. I just want them to have what I consider the best picture and most of what they watch is ESPN and DVD's.
Thanks for everyone's help, I will be ordering it on line and pay the shipping but not the tax.

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Be very careful when buying from internet based stores. Most manufactures warranties are not valid unless the TV is sold from an actual dealer and will not be valid if purchased from an internet store. I didn't mess around and went to a local place and bought the unit from them. I now have a local contact, local service call and also got the best price around. I was so tempted to buy from the net to save a few bucks but a little research swayed me to a local store.

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I bought the toshiba 62" dlp, man what a picture got it at costco for 2999.00 with stand. the main thing about buying off of the internet is returning if their are problems. You can get it returned but are looking at shipping and all to deal with to get it back to them to get it fixed. I like to be able to go down and deal with the manager.
I think sony is excellant, but toshiba is good also.
As for HDTV I have 13 HDTV channels here in charleston. And next year they will be adding more, I get almost all of the sports in HD and the imax films that are offered in HD, are awsome. HD is here and it is time to get on board.

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This unit is a gift.
Without a receipt, how will Sony know the origin of the unit, serial #?
If there happens to be a catastrophic problem with the unit, my savings + the cost of the extended service plan(which I am not getting) is more than half of what I am paying for the TV and as technology improves the cost of this unit will decrease. So, is it worth risking a 12 month warranty if in fact one is not provided? Keep in mind I have not yet contacted PC and Plasma to ask them this question.

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bellsisland - 12/21/2005 10:46 PM

I bought the toshiba 62" dlp, man what a picture got it at costco for 2999.00 with stand. the main thing about buying off of the internet is returning if their are problems. You can get it returned but are looking at shipping and all to deal with to get it back to them to get it fixed. I like to be able to go down and deal with the manager.
I think sony is excellant, but toshiba is good also.
As for HDTV I have 13 HDTV channels here in charleston. And next year they will be adding more, I get almost all of the sports in HD and the imax films that are offered in HD, are awsome. HD is here and it is time to get on board.

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DLP is the best HD picture you can get I have the samsung and my father has the LG once you watch tv in hd its hard to go back and watch regular digital
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I waiting for the after holiday prices on the 56" Samsung HL-R5678W DLP.
Gotta like that 1080p HDTV resolution and no chance of "burn-in".

Might need to finance but will probably go for it


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The pictures keep getting better and better, especially with 1080p but for me nothing beats the picture of a plasma. WOW are they nice!

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