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Old 06-11-2015, 07:28 AM
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Not sure how you can justify this but I'm sure we will here from all sides.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/...dly/vi-BBkXe7v
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Old 06-11-2015, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
Not sure how you can justify this but I'm sure we will here from all sides.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/...dly/vi-BBkXe7v
Cops foot felt threat from other feet in the area closing in on his size 7-1/2 and had to take action before fungi nail set in and ruined his foot modeling career. Union reps state had cop been paid triple his wages in straight pay incident wouldn't have happened because post trauma from possible fungi nail exposure would not have been an issue. Investigators are combing the area for possible future fungi nail exposures to quell tensions in the community.

This fungi nail epidemic is rampant in the community.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:07 AM
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The victim clearly asks the cop to kick him several times, stating he had a few bad teeth that needed to be removed. Cop was just helping him out and saving the tax payers some money.
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There was a wasp on him. In all seriousness, both of those cops should be charged equally. In my opinion standing there letting your partner do something is just as bad as being the kicker.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:23 AM
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Another sad American policing story.

But thanks to the power of video and the internet,
we are already seeing some real movement (not enough, but still...) on this issue.

Officers actually being held accountable for their actions.

But, the bigger issue that we have some control over, is one of hiring and training.
Policing is unquestionably the most stressful and dangerous job on earth.
The processes we use to hire, train and evaluate them needs to reflect the seriousness of that.
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Video is starting to make a difference. It shines the spotlight on the bad cops and lets the department get rid of them. It used to be the cops word against the person being arrested.
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if I had to wear those shorts, id be a little irritable as well
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Police using excessive force is epidemic. Hopefully in this age of video, it will bring this to light and to and end.
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In a fight, with a resistive suspect, I can justify every strike I make, until the suspect stops resisting.
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In the post-kicking photo I don't see any injury where the band-aid is in his interview.

Nothing to do with the cop being right or wrong, but a funny move by (I'm sure) his attorney.
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Everything up until the point he sat down was ok… kicking a man sitting down is just plain stupid. No way to make that look like anything other than battery.
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Originally Posted by beatcop49 View Post
In a fight, with a resistive suspect, I can justify every strike I make, until the suspect stops resisting.
I would have to see the videos to make that judgement.
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Originally Posted by SEATOAD View Post
Everything up until the point he sat down was ok… kicking a man sitting down is just plain stupid. No way to make that look like anything other than battery.
I agree and I will rewrite your wording slightly

" No way that looks like anything other than a battery."

The officer's deserve everything they get for the kicking..
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Originally Posted by alligatorgar View Post
I would have to see the videos to make that judgement.
What beat cop is saying is he always worked within the law as do 99 percent of police out there. Make no mistake about it, running away, not doing what your told and so forth is a crime and a chargeable violation and the reactions pictured looked reasonable and not excessive but kicking the guy while he is sitting down is wrong..
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not sure I have ever disagreed with Cracker's analytics of these situations..
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Originally Posted by beatcop49 View Post
In a fight, with a resistive suspect, I can justify every strike I make, until the suspect stops resisting.
All I see in the video is a guy sitting and being kicked repeatedly. Even if he was previously resisting, he is no longer. How the hell is this justifiable?
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
All I see in the video is a guy sitting and being kicked repeatedly. Even if he was previously resisting, he is no longer. How the hell is this justifiable?
Re read what he wrote, particularly the 5 words .... he agrees with you
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The subject was "sitting" but he had, a) previously fought and/or run from the officers and, b) was not placing himself in a position of submission, such as laying down with hands at his side or hands behind his back.

Perhaps kicking isn't the right type of force to be used but, given the above facts, some level of force seems reasonable to bring the subject under control.
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Originally Posted by nicecast View Post
The subject was "sitting" but he had, a) previously fought and/or run from the officers and, b) was not placing himself in a position of submission, such as laying down with hands at his side or hands behind his back.

Perhaps kicking isn't the right type of force to be used but, given the above facts, some level of force seems reasonable to bring the subject under control.
Ok, but, that isn't what happened. Kicking was. How the hell is kicking anyone going to get them 'under control'. I would think it would be more likely to reignite and actual struggle.

Do we have audio? How do we know they didn't tell him to sit on the curb and put his hands behind his back
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Tax payers will take it in the shorts again on that lawsuit.

Question for the cops out there. Do you all have malpractice insurance just like doctors?
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