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Old 06-08-2015, 03:37 PM
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Default No life jackets for those darn kids!!

http://www.nhregister.com/general-ne...inst-life-vest

Thoughts?? I disagree.
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I have three kids and not one of them has EVER been in a life jacket or other floatation device at the beach or the pool. Floatation devices promote lazy oversight by parents and other caretakers, and overconfidence by young children who lose their natural and healthy reserve around water.

When my little babies were in the pool I was with them every second. They all learned quickly to swim like fishes - no artificial floatation required or permitted.
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I have three kids and not one of them has EVER been in a life jacket or other floatation device at the beach or the pool. Floatation devices promote lazy oversight by parents and other caretakers, and overconfidence by young children who lose their natural and healthy reserve around water.

When my little babies were in the pool I was with them every second. They all learned quickly to swim like fishes - no artificial floatation required or permitted.
I'll start this with the fact that I agree with everything you say.... My next sentence will be "Is this an F'N joke"???? Most of us think as you do. To put the burden on an entire city to be responsible is laughable...I hope nobody ever drowns!!! I've done CPR on too many people who have... This cities policy will end with a check that ends in too many zeros!!
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I have three kids and not one of them has EVER been in a life jacket or other floatation device at the beach or the pool. Floatation devices promote lazy oversight by parents and other caretakers, and overconfidence by young children who lose their natural and healthy reserve around water.

When my little babies were in the pool I was with them every second. They all learned quickly to swim like fishes - no artificial floatation required or permitted.
That's certainly your prerogative. But the issue here is the local government dictating whether parents can put their kid in a lifejacket at the beach. If the law had gone the other way (requiring lifejackets at the beach for children), it would be equally ludicrous.

Usually state law prevails over a local ordinance:

The state regulation regarding swimming aids states: “Inflatable or buoyant devices (including, but not limited to, inner tubes, ring buoys, balls, air mattresses and rafts) are prohibited in those areas at state swimming areas that are protected by on-duty lifeguards, except for U.S. Coast Guard approved personal flotation devices when worn by swimmers.”
So I'm not sure how the locals got away with this. And I wonder how much they paid the genius consultant who advised them on this policy?
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Insane! I agree if you don't want to allow tire tubes and alike in the water, but CG approved vests? I myself never wore a vest while at the beach and my children won't either but if some parent that maybe doesn't swim wants they're child to wear a vest then so be it. Next I'll take the same argument and say, "I don't need no stinking seatbelt, cause it makes me lazy and not diligent enough of a driver.
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I rolled mine in bubble wrap (tinted to avoid sunlight) and they wore helmets everywhere...
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My son is 1 and has been in swim lessons for the past few months. No flotation devices. He could absolutely use a helmet though...
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My kids are 4 and 6, both have been around pools and the ocean their whole lives and cant swim yet. Some kids just don't get it that quick, good for the guys who have kids that do..My daughter is ready to try without the swimmies my son is not, if I'm at our beach then they both have swimmies on does this mean I'm wrong? So yes I disagree with the law.
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My daughter, who is 5, swims like a fish. She will dive for her dive sticks in an 8' pool, swim laps with my wife and is decent whit fins and snorkel.

My daughter learned to swim first in a pfd then then 'swimmies' which we slowly let the air out of and finally she got a hug-able foam filled floating stuffed animal. None of those things were a substitute for us watching her or teaching her as she used these things.

I see the point that the law is making but i think it is short sighted to outlaw PFDs. Don't get me started on how government has control over way to much or our daily lives.
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Way too many Mommies ruling the roost.
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I wonder how much it will cost the town when the first kid drowns.
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My kids are 4 and 6, both have been around pools and the ocean their whole lives and cant swim yet. Some kids just don't get it that quick, good for the guys who have kids that do..My daughter is ready to try without the swimmies my son is not, if I'm at our beach then they both have swimmies on does this mean I'm wrong? So yes I disagree with the law.
My son is 4. He can dive to the bottom of a pool and swim like a champ but a beach is different. I let him wear a life jacket at the beach so he can play with his friends with out me being on top of him. Plus Florida can have some good riptides on occaision. I have been pulled out once or twice. I am never far but it gives him the right amount of confidence. Next summer we will likely not have him in it but this summer it is helpful.
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"based on aquatic authorities at the time, we found that it gives parents a false sense of safety — for the parent as well as the child. It also lengthens the time it takes them to learn to swim,” said Maynard. “If you think your child is safe with a life vest on, you don’t watch them as closely.”


Idiot statement. LIFE VEST on a child infers irresponsible parenting.
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"based on aquatic authorities at the time, we found that it gives parents a false sense of safety — for the parent as well as the child. It also lengthens the time it takes them to learn to swim,” said Maynard. “If you think your child is safe with a life vest on, you don’t watch them as closely.”


Idiot statement. LIFE VEST on a child infers irresponsible parenting.


I'll have to make sure my kids don't wear life vests on the boat this summer, what wonderful logic this person displays.
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I have three kids and not one of them has EVER been in a life jacket or other floatation device at the beach or the pool. Floatation devices promote lazy oversight by parents and other caretakers, and overconfidence by young children who lose their natural and healthy reserve around water.
Exactly. I have a 7 & 10 year old. Both have been in the water regularly since they were about 8 months old. Neither has ever worn floaties, swim wings, or a life jacket at the pool or beach. They wear them all the time on the boat, but that's a bit different.

Floatation devices make it harder for the child to swim naturally. I could see this being a problem at the beach with the wave action.

If your child can't swim (or at least float for the young ones) without the flotation device, they shouldn't be in the water. I've seen more than one toddler head back in the water after the flotation device was removed, because it was out of the pool time.
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My kids are 4 and 6, both have been around pools and the ocean their whole lives and cant swim yet. Some kids just don't get it that quick, good for the guys who have kids that do..My daughter is ready to try without the swimmies my son is not, if I'm at our beach then they both have swimmies on does this mean I'm wrong? So yes I disagree with the law.
YES, just because some kids are natural swimmers, doesn't mean all kids are! My son is 9'and just becoming comfortable snorkeling (in pool). He is negative buoyant and has always sunk like a rock! It's been an on going process, but he is not ready. Some kids need extra help

By the way, he does not wear a life jacket in pool!
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Wrong on so may levels.
1.) Don't tell citizens what we can and can't do. Next they will be dictating clothing rules.
2.) If people want to wear them, it is their choice not the town's. Fix the verbiage immediately.
3.) First lawsuit after a drowning and things will change real fast.
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I have three kids and not one of them has EVER been in a life jacket or other floatation device at the beach or the pool. Floatation devices promote lazy oversight by parents and other caretakers, and overconfidence by young children who lose their natural and healthy reserve around water.

When my little babies were in the pool I was with them every second. They all learned quickly to swim like fishes - no artificial floatation required or permitted.
We should take this type of logic to the auto manufacturers and highway safety councils around the country. Take out seatbelts, airbags, crumple zones and roll cages from the vehicles. Maybe then people will pay closer attention to how they drive.
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Originally Posted by nicecast View Post
I have three kids and not one of them has EVER been in a life jacket or other floatation device at the beach or the pool. Floatation devices promote lazy oversight by parents and other caretakers, and overconfidence by young children who lose their natural and healthy reserve around water.

When my little babies were in the pool I was with them every second. They all learned quickly to swim like fishes - no artificial floatation required or permitted.
My kids are as equally as awesome as yours. That said, I'd sure hate for the neighbors kid to drown at the local beach because some moron decided they weren't allowed to wear a life saving device at the beach.

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