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Old 06-03-2015, 05:56 AM
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So the admiral has come home with a Koi fish pond, I'm going to place it outside in a corner if the house that is L shaped. The pond is 6x4 and around 2 ft deep, I'm thinking that some tall grass plants and landscape lighting would look nice but was wondering if the fish can survive outside all year in Ct.? Do I need to heat the water? Should I bring them inside for the winter? Lastly, can anyone suggest a good place to buy the fish? Thanks.
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They probably won't survive year round in a pond that size with your winter conditions.

I think maybe one of those 400,000 btu Rheem pool heaters might be just the ticket to keep them toasty on those chilly northern nights! ��
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A cousin of mine leave his outside all winter in north Jersey, not sure how big his pond is.
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A guy who lived behind me had a fish pond about that size. North of Boston on the NH border. I know he
kept it mostly covered with plywood during the coldest months and when it was going to snow. He also
kept an air pump going to keep the water moving to prevent a total ice over, which I believe would "suffocate"
the fish in a pond that small. I'd ask him for more info, but he died last year.
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whats the benefit of a koi pond?
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whats the benefit of a koi pond?
Provides a food source for the Egrets and Herons.
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So the admiral has come home with a Koi fish pond, I'm going to place it outside in a corner if the house that is L shaped. The pond is 6x4 and around 2 ft deep, I'm thinking that some tall grass plants and landscape lighting would look nice but was wondering if the fish can survive outside all year in Ct.? Do I need to heat the water? Should I bring them inside for the winter? Lastly, can anyone suggest a good place to buy the fish? Thanks.
I have had a Koi pond for 18 years now, it started out small like yours, now its about 4000 gallons. The fish will not survive in that shallow and small pond in the winter. You can put them in the basement in a small kids pool. My brother does that for his small pond. As far as the fish go, you can go to just about any good size pet store and buy Koi or goldfish and if you want mix them up. Lots of plants will help keep the water clearer, I would invest in a filter and pump, Maybe create some type of water fall as the sound is relaxing. You will also have to watch out for raccoons and herons. In a pond that small it will be easy pickings for them. That's why I suggested cheap Koi and gold fish.
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Your climate is probably different then mine here in Oregon but I've had a foot of ice covering my pond and the fish survived. Make it 3' deep if you can. Construct a 2' deep bench around the permitter. The additional water will give the fish some cover and reduce the algae problems.
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Seeing as the pond is roughly 350 gals. you can go to the local pet store and purchase 2or so 1000 watt aquarium heaters such as the tru temp.
They aren't cheap, but they are effective.
Place 1 in the filter overflow and 1 in the deepest part of the pond.

Or you can try catching the fish and bring them inside for the winter.
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Originally Posted by CJS View Post
Provides a food source for the Egrets and Herons, cats and raccoons
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--------____Go to kensfish.com for the best price on supplies.,there is a tab up top for pond supplies.
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The koi can live year round in CT but you need to keep the water from freezing.
The ice traps ammonia in the water and it kills the fish.
A garden center that I visited has a koi pond and he uses a pump to keep the water from freezing.
He said to stop feeding when the water temp goes below 50 degrees.

I use to have goldfish in the backyard pond. They get big and are just as cool to watch.
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Originally Posted by mskin314 View Post
whats the benefit of a koi pond?
Protection of course.
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They sell special winter pond heaters that keep a small hole in the surface so pond can off gas, otherwise the fish would die, but they can withstand cold ice winters, they just stop eating end of Oct when the water approaches 50 degrees and start eating when close to 60.

Good filter is key for summer, want to keep it clean and nice looking, nothing worse then green water.
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Provides a food source for the Egrets and Herons.
Yup. Better get some bigger Koi or else you will lose a bunch of them to birds.
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Originally Posted by SEATOAD View Post
Yup. Better get some bigger Koi or else you will lose a bunch of them to birds.
I haven't seen either birds near my home, ever..
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I haven't seen either birds near my home, ever..

LOL you will shortly
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You'll start to see them several months after the fish go in. I will 2nd the lip around the edge of the pond as well. Lots of plants, running water, small underwater light, raised rock area for water spillage, or small waterfall. Play around with the spillage distance between rocks for the sound that suits you best.

Pool must be a minimum of 40 inches deep over most of the bottom so as to not kill fish during freeze
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The Heron's and egrets in your area will love you.
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Provides a food source for the Egrets and Herons.
...and the bears. Chased 2 out last Sunday, they are becoming a major PIMA.

My pond is 15'lx6'wx15"d and my fish survive NJ winters. It should be deeper but I can't put a shovel into the ground w/o hitting a rock so 15" is all I have. OP - 24" is plenty deep.
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I have a koi pond I installed 10 years ago. Three of my original fish are still thriving( the 4th was attacked by a seagull) To combat the gulls I have a small Maple tree growing next to the pond. Seagulls stay away from trees and I never had gull issues again.
Keep the pump going through the winter and make sure the flow keeps a hole in the ice and the fish will be fine.
Another important tip......Three years ago the City of Gloucester introduced ammonia to the water supply. My father in law lost all his fish within 30 minutes after adding water from the garden hose!
To combat this I added a 30 gallon rain barrel to the corner downspout. I installed a hose hook up at the top of the barrel which allows the overflow to go directly into the pond. And a spigot at the base for a reserve supply. This keeps the water fresh and clear all through nature and the fish are happy!
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