Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Dockside Chat
Reload this Page >

20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

Notices

20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

Old 12-07-2005, 05:23 PM
  #1  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: shelby twp MI
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

Don't you just hate it when that happens? Ruined my whole evening. Ran to the supply house picked up a whole new furnace and everything that goes along and commenced. It's bad enough tearing out an old furnace when there's plenty of room, but when it's in a little room behind the 1/2 bath than it really sucks the big one. The old furnace was slightly OVER 24 inches and the door to the room was slightly UNDER 24 inches. Who does sh%$ like this? So off comes the new moulding, and of course out comes the pedestal sink in front of the door. But in spite of all this I completed the task in about 6 hours by myself. Dad said I should have just fixed it and waited to install the new stuff for a better day, but I wasn't going to waste any money on it and I want my days off to be just that. Time off. Sorry to b^%ch but I had to vent.

Jim
Old 12-07-2005, 05:50 PM
  #2  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Amelia Island, FL
Posts: 4,782
Likes: 0
Received 111 Likes on 49 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

You da man, replacing it in 6 hours! My jake-leg HVAC guys couldn't figure out where to start in 6 hours.

Can I call you to replace both of ours? That is my wifes and my Christmas gift to each other.
Old 12-07-2005, 06:20 PM
  #3  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 4,635
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

That rots,but you got a new set up now.These sort of things always happen,at the most inoppurtune times. ;?
Old 12-07-2005, 06:24 PM
  #4  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Thornton's Ferry,NH,USA
Posts: 10,728
Likes: 0
Received 67 Likes on 41 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

My oil guy fixed my 50 y/o furnace in 90 minutes for $200 including parts and labor. He needed an odd part that he only carried one of, and had used that morning for the first time in a year and stopped the clock while another driver brought one over.
Old 12-07-2005, 06:49 PM
  #5  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: West Carolina
Posts: 21,952
Likes: 0
Received 1,558 Likes on 845 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

Reel Boobs - 12/7/2005 5:50 PM

You da man, replacing it in 6 hours! My jake-leg HVAC guys couldn't figure out where to start in 6 hours.

Can I call you to replace both of ours? That is my wifes and my Christmas gift to each other.
Look where he is from. This time of year in Michigan replacing a furnace is like learning to swim if you live in "Waterworld". If you don't know how, you can die.

Trust me, I spent last Christmas in Hastings, it was a balmy 4 degrees when we woke up. Actually got up to a high of 14.

tinmarine, I only wish I could do what you did.
Old 12-07-2005, 07:13 PM
  #6  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: S. Galvez, Louisiana. Ame
Posts: 7,448
Received 130 Likes on 62 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

New heat/air mover unit installed two years ago. Auto pilot, two stage burners, looks like an F-16 compared to the old one.

It never fails, while it very seldom gets real cold down here. The electricity goes out. Sure am glad I have a fireplce.
Old 12-07-2005, 07:38 PM
  #7  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Braunfels, Tx
Posts: 8,763
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

I think we must be brothers. That story sounds just like one of my projects.

Yeah, I think I will regrout a small crack in the shower tile. Apply a little pressure and the tile goes through the wall!

20 minutes, turns into a 2 day project.. This was my old house, not this one..
Old 12-07-2005, 07:51 PM
  #8  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: shelby twp MI
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

I was kind of disappointed because I told the wife five hours. But than again I never realized I needed two pry bars and a screw driver to get it through the door way. Luckily nothing was destroyed. (except my patience)

Jim
Old 12-07-2005, 11:33 PM
  #9  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: michigan
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

Jim are you licensed to do hvac?

not to sound like a butt head but I live in Michigan,

and no hvac dealers with furnaces would sell to me without the hvac licence.

even the wholesalers would NOT sell to me at all even with a tax id, and a electrical degree.
no sale without the HVAC licence in Michigan.

I had to go to Ohio, and lie my butt off to buy mine, I was not going to pay some hvac guy $5-7000.00 for a furnace install.

bought everything myself, did it all for under 2K with 2 UV Lights, electrostatic,90% with A/C
I was not going to pay $4000.00 in labor so the HVAC guy can sit around the rest of the month and laugh that they charged someone $300.00 for a $40.00 water pump.

also installed a tank less tagaki water heater too. LOVE IT!!!
tank less is the way to go 100%


just curious.. how did you get around the no sales thing?

bill




Old 12-08-2005, 05:06 PM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: shelby twp MI
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

I'm actually going to take my HVAC test soon. I've been doing sheet metal for just under 12 years now on a commercial and industrial basis. I can go to the supply houses and get pretty much anything you can think of. Right now as you know the unemployment rate is unbelieveable and my trade is slowing down. I install furnaces on the side for a little side money. Hopefully I can get a business up and running in the next couple of years. It truly amazes me the prices people charge for heat and air. My cost for everything was just under 800.00. That was furnace custom return boot all piping and electrical plus the upgraded flue kit so I didn't have to install a chimney liner and metal for the two sheet metal fittings I had to make for the supply and return duct. For the job I did on my house I would have charged about 1500.00 just for the hassle of the location. Most would charge roughly 2500. One of my neighbors down the street asked me for a price quote on his air and I was the cheapest out of 8 bids and the equipment I install was of higher quality and a higher SEER rating. Work is looking really scary during the winter months but with the casinos starting to go up work is really going to be booming this summer. If you need anything just PM me and I'll try to hook you up. BTW how do you like those UV's? Most people look like I have 2 heads when I mention them.

Jim
Old 12-09-2005, 01:25 AM
  #11  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: michigan
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

I love the UV lights, I have one mounted on the inlet air duct, before the filter and electro,

then I have a two bulb unit mounted right after the a/c right in the central duct T split.

I can say they do work wonders, NO ODORS from anything, and we have been less sick than ever and if one of us gets a cold they seem to keep the spreading to other family members down allot.
the air is fresher, and my allergies are not nearly as bad anymore.

the only thing I would have to say that I am disappointed in is the Honeywell electrostatic, it does not seem to do that great of a job filtering the air so I added a filter slot right after it.
I may just pull the metal coils and put a big paper filter in.

I have all hardwood, and I live off a dirt road so dust builds.

anyway, Hvac is a great field... If you stay true to the prices and charge fair labor. there is some things as making a profit and just plain taking advantage of people.

even one of my so called friends from high school, long time friend just grew apart (different life choices)

he is into hvac and appliance repair, had him come out and give me a friends discount price on the new furnace $7K
I learned real quick, not my friend... but as the saying goes nobody FFFS you faster than a friend or a relative.


bill

Old 12-09-2005, 09:53 AM
  #12  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Garett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 24,380
Likes: 0
Received 1,094 Likes on 610 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

billnuts - 12/7/2005 11:33 PM

Jim are you licensed to do hvac?

not to sound like a butt head but I live in Michigan,

and no hvac dealers with furnaces would sell to me without the hvac licence.

even the wholesalers would NOT sell to me at all even with a tax id, and a electrical degree.
no sale without the HVAC licence in Michigan.
Same here in Ontario, but some will do it as a cash sale - this I found out the hard way.
Old 12-09-2005, 10:47 AM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 0
Received 91 Likes on 53 Posts
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

I have found a few online places that will sell everything I need to me at very reasonable prices...furnaces, compressors, air handlers. I'm in accounting so there is no way I have any type of licenses needed. I just have a buddy do the charging/disposing of freon and sheet metal. Like others have said...it saves tons of money and it's not difficult at all.
Old 12-09-2005, 05:48 PM
  #14  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: shelby twp MI
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 20 degrees and the heat goes out!!

I have found that the on line places don't give all that I can get at the supply house. Besides, if something is out of the ordinary I can call different places and find exactly what I need.

My father in law wanted to put a wood burner in his garage. Well with a wood burner you need a 16 ga stack or better. I would only put in stainless boiler breeching due to the fact that the iron would rust out in a few years and wouldn't have the air gap around it. So, I made a few calls and found a small electric heater that draws very low amps has a t stat and very quiet and it saved about 400 bucks.

Garrett, you need anything you give me a call too.

Jim

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.