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Old 05-18-2015, 06:41 PM
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Default Private Pilot License. Waste of Money? Or just another boat?

I always wanted to get a pilots license. Recently I decided that even though it makes absolutely no financial sense in anyway that it was time. It has always been a bucket list thing for me. Anybody else have one? What do you all fly? Can you justify a small plane as anything but a toy?
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I have known 3 peeps personally who have crashed. 1 is still here. I still have other friends who fly. I wonder who is next to drop. Probably not the positive reinforcement you were looking for.
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I fly, so does my brother.

You can't justify it unless maybe you need it to go to town to get groceries like in remote Alaska, even then I doubt it.

Don't even think about starting without getting the medical out of the way.

You might spend some time reading over at pilotsofamerica dot com (I'm on there too, same username).

I mainly fly my cessna 150 (I'm a partner on it and selling soon) but I'm lucky and get to fly my uncles mooney 231 pretty regularly too.

Don't buy a plane. Rent.

If you're lucky they may have a good flying club near you.

Don't take the first flight unless you wanna do it, you will be hooked. It is so addictive.

One thing for sure you will never think "marine grade" is all that expensive once you buy some "aviation grade" stuff lol.

PS if you do it I have an extra David Clark noise cancelling headset I might let go (just reminded myself).

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I have known 3 peeps personally who have crashed. 1 is still here. I still have other friends who fly. I wonder who is next to drop. Probably not the positive reinforcement you were looking for.
I'm sure there's more to the story and it almost always boils down to pilot error.

I was gonna say this but didn't.

You need to know yourself if you want to fly. What I mean is when the big fan in the front stops spinning are you going to remain calm and fly the plane, or are you gonna panic, pull up stall the bitch into the ground?

In life we all take calculated risks. Driving a car comes to mind.
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If it is on your bucket list and you can afford it, I say go for it. I can't tell you how many older people I have met that say they have always wanted to learn to fly and regret not doing it.

Will it be anything more than a toy? Well that depends. As a private pilot you will not be able to earn money flying so unless you have the need to use it for transportation for some reason ie. business travel, or home in the islands it will likely just be a toy for you, but that is not a good reason not to do it.
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Have a friend that has been a pilot for many years. He has built his own planes, and currently fly's a new Cessna CJ 4 for a living. I have had the privilege of flying with him riding up front on the controls. It is amazing. I have also wanted to pursue a license a long time. My friend says its just too expensive of a hobby. I personally think doing it while younger would put you in a better place when your older to perhaps be able to purchase a plane, be financially able to support the hobby, and for me personally be able to close the gap between family that live at a great distance, plus vacation. Just my opinion.
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Learn how to fly.
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You'll be glad you did!
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
I'm sure there's more to the story and it almost always boils down to pilot error.

I was gonna say this but didn't.

You need to know yourself if you want to fly. What I mean is when the big fan in the front stops spinning are you going to remain calm and fly the plane, or are you gonna panic, pull up stall the bitch into the ground?

In life we all take calculated risks. Driving a car comes to mind.
You are spot on sir. 2 of the 3 were. The one still alive was mechanical.
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Compared to NetJets, flying ones own airplane is much less expensive!
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Another option if available in your area...sailplanes.
That is fun!
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Get it!

Do an online course (or at least I did) http://www.kingschools.com to start and get some of the basics down.

Mine was CD's and helps you get a jump on things without investing time in school upfront. You kinda start things with some basic knowledge.

Also, get it in a busy, controlled airspace too if you can. Once you learn in that airspace, flying everywhere else is a breeze. You don't want it the other way around, learning in some nowhere land and then when you want to fly in a complex airspace you basically can't because it's so crazy compared to what you trained in.

I can't justify owning one but find a good place for rentals and enjoy.

My flight time has been in Cessna 172, Socata TB10, Piper Cherokee 6 and Piper Archer II.

Seems like a decent plane rental is about $150/hour (wet, i.e. fuel included)

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Cost of fuel has killed the small hobby industry. Unless you are flying for a job or flying for your work the operating expense is out of sight. Fuel is over ten bucks a gallon, you burn twenty gallons an hour, etc......If you think boating is expensive, you have not seen nothing yet.
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I got my license before and like many things, found I did not have the time, desire or money to keep it up. After you get the license, you have to log so many hours a year to stay current and it's not cheap. I found that I had fly just to fly to get hours and it wasn't worth it for me. Thought it would be cool to go to the Keys for the weekend or something like to get hours, but that gets really expensive really fast when you factor in tie down cost, hotel, rental hours, fuel, etc.

I will say if you have a few thousand to spend, it was fun just to get the license.
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Do it ! Best advice is to join a flying club , that makes it much more affordable. You can use the club planes to learn on if you hire a club certified CFI and save about $60.00 an hour over going to a flight school . Good luck !
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Yes it is expensive, but the learning experience is second to none.
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I'd say go for it!! Especially since its on your bucket list. I've been a pilot for over 10 years and really have enjoyed it. Some years I fly more than others depending on what hobby I have at the time. Last year probably flew 50 hours, this year much less.

BTW- It's very hard to justify a plane, but you have to spend your money on something. LOL
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If you can afford it and have the time, go for it. It is a lot fun but doesnt really make sense unless you need another hobby. I got mine in college and flew quite a bit because I had time and income to do it. When I got married it all ended. I havent flown in 15 yrs or so. It was somewhat affordable in that you could rent a Piper Warrior for about $70/hr wet and a Cessna 152 for $55 back then. Rates are roughly double that now. I keep telling myself Im going to get current one day.

Good luck with it!!
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If you have the money do it. It is a lot of enjoyment for those who really like it. But there is not a lot you can do with it. You are in the perfect place to learn in FL.

Because of the cost and commitment required, less than half my students who start finish.
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Well worth it. I've been flying for 10 years, wished I learn years earlier. Its great to fly in to the Keys or Everglades city or Bahamas for the weekend or just to grab lunch. Just remember there are no old daredevil pilots. Fly safe.

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