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Old 05-12-2015, 10:45 AM
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Need some opinions I am closing on a house this Friday and having a battle with the homeowners realtor/ roofing contractor. The house had a new roof installed about 6 months ago. The roof looks great overall with a coupe of exceptions. Some of the shingles that butt up to the dormers were no trimmed adequately and were shoved in and nailed. They, in my opinion should be laying flat against the roof. This just looks like a issue waiting to happen. As for the rotted wood in the pic, that is being taken care of by me once we close, I am getting rid of all the wood and Masonite trim and replacing with fiber cement. Thoughts?? The roofer is trying to explain to me I don't know what I am talking about but if it would make me happy for $400 he would come out and do what I am asking.
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Need some opinions I am closing on a house this Friday and having a battle with the homeowners realtor/ roofing contractor. The house had a new roof installed about 6 months ago. The roof looks great overall with a coupe of exceptions. Some of the shingles that butt up to the dormers were no trimmed adequately and were shoved in and nailed. They, in my opinion should be laying flat against the roof. This just looks like a issue waiting to happen. As for the rotted wood in the pic, that is being taken care of by me once we close, I am getting rid of all the wood and Masonite trim and replacing with fiber cement. Thoughts?? The roofer is trying to explain to me I don't know what I am talking about but if it would make me happy for $400 he would come out and do what I am asking.
The roofer is a liar and he needs to fix that asap on his dime.
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I would wager it does not even have step flashing, it is wrong and in a driven storm might leak.

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I would wager it does not even have step flashing, it is wrong and in a driven storm might leak.

John
good eye, I don;t see it there either.
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There is flashing under the siding, the siding is going asap. People like this roofer just get used to speaking with people who have zero idea what they are talking about. A liar contractor is as bad as a liar mechanic. I sent a formal response to the roofer requesting him to repair asap. If I get no response I will just dig up a product rep and see if that stirs the roofers interest to get it fixed. I assume being able to warranty his work is important to him?!?!?!?
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I'll bet there is more wrong with the roof job after seeing that work.
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I said everything else was great, to elaborate, everything is good now, as I had an entire punchlist for them to fix, which they did. I am not sure why they decided to draw the line with this issue.
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I said everything else was great, to elaborate, everything is good now, as I had an entire punchlist for them to fix, which they did. I am not sure why they decided to draw the line with this issue.
Because it is a band aid on a bigger wound they do not want you to see.
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Because it is a band aid on a bigger wound they do not want you to see.
yes, please tell me you or an inspector got up into the attic to inspect.
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Is it just this one dormer?
If the step flashing is in place as you said OK, but if it is just this one dormer and one location I do have to wonder why the roofer won't come, spent 30 minutes and make it right.
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No way, no how! Those shingles must lay flat!!!!
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Originally Posted by Jersus View Post
Because it is a band aid on a bigger wound they do not want you to see.
My thought exactly. People with nothing to hide don't behave that way.
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I would think that your siding should not come into contact with roof shingles, this might be why the shingles are buckeled because they couldn't get them to sit under siding. I also notice that they have attached gutter through drip edge which I think is one of the biggest cause for roof/ fascia damage.
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Old 05-12-2015, 03:17 PM
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Not all shingle roofs use step flashing..there is a flashing that goes under the shingles with a vertical lip at the outer end.

The siding is too close to the roofing in any case.

Shingles were cut too long also.
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Originally Posted by jkapl001 View Post
I said everything else was great, to elaborate, everything is good now, as I had an entire punchlist for them to fix, which they did. I am not sure why they decided to draw the line with this issue.
Fiber cement? You might want to read this.

Type this in the search bar ( Fiber Cement Siding Defects)

Fiber Cement Siding Defects - InspectAPedia.com
inspectapedia.com/exterior/Fiber_Cement_Siding_Defects.
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Have you had a person who knows what they are doing look at this.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:28 PM
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Contact the sales/warranty rep for the shingle manufacturer and have him inspect the roofing job. No way it will pass his inspection and no way the roofer can argue with him.
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Roofer just called me back and said he relooked the roof and he sees the issue and will get it take care of asap. There are only two dormers on the house, both have this issue. They than that it is just a simple hip roof. I have been all through the attic, no signs of any water in the attic. When I redo the siding and trim around dormers I am going to fix the issue of it being to close to the roof. The gutter is under the drip edge, it is just the angle the pic is taken. I knew this was an issue and the home inspector quickly pointed it out. I have a rep that is going to look at it.
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Don't do fiber cement trim, do PVC.

Looks like a sloppy job.

The bigger issue I see is that it does not appear the roofer used any type of flashing material where the roof meets the dormer.

I suspect the seller got the job done for as cheap as possible and told the contractor to only install new shingles.

The challenge with roofing a house with a dormer that has siding is, to flash that property the roofer needs to get up behind the siding, this often damages the siding, which adds to the cost because the siding will need to be replaced/repainted.


PS, I reroofed my cape w/dormers last year with cedar shingle and the roofer had to remove the dormer siding about a foot up from the roof to adequately access the vertical facia to install flashing.
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