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02-12-2019, 04:44 AM
#1021
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,416
Go Florida.
Were mashing the walkers and Bikers at a pretty good clip.
Safe to say that these 50 plus year old roads weren't designed for pedestrians or Bikes now that we have 22 million residents and 5 times that many visitors.
Lots of places without sidewalks or Bike lanes but people still try to walk and bike in places that simply aren't safe.
Reminds me of the guy that was swimming across the mouth of the Anclote River on a busy weekend. My FWC buddy approached and told him it was very dangerous. The guy told him to piss off as it wasn't illegal.
Were mashing the walkers and Bikers at a pretty good clip.
Safe to say that these 50 plus year old roads weren't designed for pedestrians or Bikes now that we have 22 million residents and 5 times that many visitors.
Lots of places without sidewalks or Bike lanes but people still try to walk and bike in places that simply aren't safe.
Reminds me of the guy that was swimming across the mouth of the Anclote River on a busy weekend. My FWC buddy approached and told him it was very dangerous. The guy told him to piss off as it wasn't illegal.
02-12-2019, 06:03 AM
#1022
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 8,890
Originally Posted by grouperdawg
That's not good....wonder why the south east is so bad
02-12-2019, 07:14 AM
#1023
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 318
New bike!
https://lunacycle.com/luna-sixfifty-...olf-hard-tail/
looking forward to ripping up hills while not pedaling in Ludicrus mode.
https://lunacycle.com/luna-sixfifty-...olf-hard-tail/
looking forward to ripping up hills while not pedaling in Ludicrus mode.
02-12-2019, 07:21 AM
#1024
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 8,890
Originally Posted by ncmallard78
New bike!
https://lunacycle.com/luna-sixfifty-...olf-hard-tail/
looking forward to ripping up hills while not pedaling in Ludicrus mode.
https://lunacycle.com/luna-sixfifty-...olf-hard-tail/
looking forward to ripping up hills while not pedaling in Ludicrus mode.
02-12-2019, 01:55 PM
#1025
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Kent, VA
Posts: 2,255
Originally Posted by 20biminitwist
Go Florida.
Were mashing the walkers and Bikers at a pretty good clip.
Safe to say that these 50 plus year old roads weren't designed for pedestrians or Bikes now that we have 22 million residents and 5 times that many visitors.
Lots of places without sidewalks or Bike lanes but people still try to walk and bike in places that simply aren't safe.
Reminds me of the guy that was swimming across the mouth of the Anclote River on a busy weekend. My FWC buddy approached and told him it was very dangerous. The guy told him to piss off as it wasn't illegal.
Were mashing the walkers and Bikers at a pretty good clip.
Safe to say that these 50 plus year old roads weren't designed for pedestrians or Bikes now that we have 22 million residents and 5 times that many visitors.
Lots of places without sidewalks or Bike lanes but people still try to walk and bike in places that simply aren't safe.
Reminds me of the guy that was swimming across the mouth of the Anclote River on a busy weekend. My FWC buddy approached and told him it was very dangerous. The guy told him to piss off as it wasn't illegal.
02-12-2019, 02:45 PM
#1027
Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns, VA
Posts: 83
Originally Posted by autobaun70
we have lots of narrow, curvy roads. Add lots of hills in many locations (particularly all of upstate SC). Bicycles have no business on narrow curvy roads. No doubt our drivers are idiots. That should be a factor taken into consideration before hitting the road on a bike, especially in regards to route planning.
I'm sure there are a number of factors that go into these fatalities - safe infrastructure, driver awareness, urban density, etc.
It is interesting that the states w/ the worst drivers (from https://www.carinsurancecomparison.com/) don't necessarily correlate with states where pedestrian and bike fatalities are higher. I'm sort of surprised at VA being middle of the pack because I see a lot of craptacular driving - especially in the Richmond and Norfolk areas. I also would have thought FL would have been worse.
02-12-2019, 05:22 PM
#1030
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,416
Originally Posted by TripleCrownNC
Not sure how biking in Florida and some guy swimming are related but ok.
This is the exact reason people are getting run over.
I thought those smart enough would pick up on the analogy.
Just because it's legal to ride on certain roads doesn't mean it's a good idea. Especially when you have miles of dedicated bike paths in close proximity.
You can't fix stupid but you might run them over if they are that dumb.
02-14-2019, 08:14 PM
#1031
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location:
Posts: 764
The e bike thing is exploding in major cities all over the world; GM just dove into that market with two e bikes. The younger generation love them they are cheap and green. With infrastructure like they have In some cities in Europe they are way safer and faster to get places than cars. I think ford and bmw are also making them; car market continues to decline they r looking for other markets to make money
02-16-2019, 05:22 AM
#1032
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Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Louisissippi Coast
Posts: 12,238
Originally Posted by stimpson.j.cat
The League of American Bicyclists just released the 2018 benchmarking report on walking and biking in the US.
https://bikeleague.org/content/press...-health-crisis
Some conclusions:
https://bikeleague.org/content/press...-health-crisis
Some conclusions:
- Mississippi was the deadliest state for bicyclists with the highest average fatality rate per 10k bicycle commuters from 2012-2016. Mississippi also had the lowest percent of commuters biking to work in 2016 at .1 percent of the population.
- Cities where the rate of biking to work is highest, like Portland, Oregon, and Washington, DC, have the lowest rate of bicyclist fatalities.
- 71 percent of bicyclist deaths occurred in an urban area, with 61 percent occurring on principal or minor arterial roadways, which only make up 10 percent of the national roadway system.
- 39 percent of biking trips and 35 percent of walking trips in 2017 were for social and/or recreational purposes.
- 20 percent of biking trips in 2017 were to earn a living.
- Women are underrepresented among people who bike to work, but there have been modest participation increases in recent years.
- For people with an income below $25,000 per year, biking in an increasingly common method for taking trips.
02-16-2019, 05:38 AM
#1033
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Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Louisissippi Coast
Posts: 12,238
Originally Posted by grouperdawg
That's not good....wonder why the south east is so bad
Any correlation?
https://www.livescience.com/50973-ob...-rankings.html
02-16-2019, 08:27 AM
#1034
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
02-16-2019, 07:08 PM
#1035
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Posts: 764
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
I am not surprised to see CO near the bottom of that list. The drivers out there have been very courteous in my experience.
