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Old 04-07-2017, 06:21 PM
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I ride a few thousand miles a year on public highways. For years I rode on the edge of the road, but got tired of a--holes buzzing me trying to fit their car in the same lane as me even if there was no on coming traffic. Now I ride further out forcing cars to to go in to the other lane and don't have near as many people buzzing me. Luckily the state of Ohio just passed a new law that all cars have to give cyclists at least a three foot space when you pass. And for those of you that say you can't enforce such a law most of the cyclists I know now ride with a camera just for these instances. And for those of you that talk about cyclists staying on bike paths, the sad truth is bike paths are as dangerous as roads. On bike paths you have inconsiderate people walking with their dogs leashed an unleashed not paying attention letting them run right in front of you. I've been on bike paths and alerted people that I'll be passing on their left and the idiots turn left right into my path. I ride a lot near my summer home in the country, they have a large Amish population and the locals are used to having to slow down for them and treat the cyclists much better than the city drivers.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
Anyone need to blow off any steam? Let me have it.
Paul, you would be proud of me. I bought a nice bike, Fuji Crosstown, from a local shop that provides lifetime service/repair. I love it for night rides on the golf course paths, but I am still freaked out when sharing a road with a vehicle. I haven't read the thread, but I can see frustration from both sides.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sinjun View Post
I ride a few thousand miles a year on public highways. For years I rode on the edge of the road, but got tired of a--holes buzzing me trying to fit their car in the same lane as me even if there was no on coming traffic. Now I ride further out forcing cars to to go in to the other lane and don't have near as many people buzzing me. Luckily the state of Ohio just passed a new law that all cars have to give cyclists at least a three foot space when you pass. And for those of you that say you can't enforce such a law most of the cyclists I know now ride with a camera just for these instances. And for those of you that talk about cyclists staying on bike paths, the sad truth is bike paths are as dangerous as roads. On bike paths you have inconsiderate people walking with their dogs leashed an unleashed not paying attention letting them run right in front of you. I've been on bike paths and alerted people that I'll be passing on their left and the idiots turn left right into my path. I ride a lot near my summer home in the country, they have a large Amish population and the locals are used to having to slow down for them and treat the cyclists much better than the city drivers.
So you are OK trying to get me to cross a double yellow line or drop down to 12 mph in a 55 until I come across a passing line?
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:57 PM
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Agree with failure of government. They should put bicycle lanes where it isn't safe to ride on the main road. Kinda like Williamsburg VA. But, riding in the car lane on a two lane road with a 55mph speed limit is not the place for bicycles, especially if they riding 2/3 abreast and not moving over so you can pass.
I agree with adding bike lanes. I think the major stipulation should be working it into the repaving or other necessary maintenance schedules. They don't cost much if a contractor is already there working, but are stupid expensive to build if that is the only thing being done.

Riding other than single file should be outright banned. There should also be a requirement for cyclists to pull off the road every so often if traffic (even single cars) are stuck behind them.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:59 PM
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So you are OK trying to get me to cross a double yellow line or drop down to 12 mph in a 55 until I come across a passing line?
Yes, if it keeps you from passing so close I can hit your vehicle with my hand when you pass. It is perfectly legal to pass cyclists on a double yellow as long as there is no on coming traffic. Like I said I rode on the edge of the road for years, moved further out for self preservation.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:08 PM
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I agree with adding bike lanes. I think the major stipulation should be working it into the repaving or other necessary maintenance schedules. They don't cost much if a contractor is already there working, but are stupid expensive to build if that is the only thing being done.

Riding other than single file should be outright banned. There should also be a requirement for cyclists to pull off the road every so often if traffic (even single cars) are stuck behind them.
This is the problem you and most car drivers don't know the laws. Bicycles are considered no different than a car on the road and are entitled to the entire lane where bike lanes don't exist.
It's really getting ridiculous on here with people complaining about school buses making too many stops, bicyclists taking up too much space. I just don't understand the hate that people have.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:09 PM
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You know what pisses me off? I run a 62' charter boat part time. I pay a shit ton for my licenses, permits, taxes, registration, documentation, fuel and insurance. For me, time is money. I have to run the ICW and a crowded inlet to get to the fishing grounds and back. The place is littered with trailer boats and the posers running them. Dressed in their Costas, with their Salt life garb and whatever Yeti crap they can pay too much for. Bunch of Jose Wajebe wannabes. I can't even get on a plane for the first 8 miles of my voyage. Don't they know that the ICW was made for commercial traffic? And why do they need to anchor at the little island right by the inlet? There are islands and fishing spots just three miles away. Screw it. I am going to run 9 knots (my best plow speed) and teach them a lesson. Gross tonnage, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen and all that.
How about those parts of the Intracoastal with a narrow channel with shallows outside the marked channel? What do you find in the channel? Dumbasses in flats boats and kayaks fishing, giving snotty looks and waving their arms when you are too close. Or, the crab traps scattered in the channel? It's the same mentality.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:12 PM
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And for all the people that say bicycles should have to be licensed, the same argument would go towards kiteboards, surfboards, paddleboards, windsurfing and row boats.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:27 PM
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Yes, if it keeps you from passing so close I can hit your vehicle with my hand when you pass. It is perfectly legal to pass cyclists on a double yellow as long as there is no on coming traffic. Like I said I rode on the edge of the road for years, moved further out for self preservation.

When I am on the motorsickle and I just "join in with them" in the right lane until I get a passing zone. They get pissed off but that's a personal problem. Bicycles don't belong on any roads where they can't can at least keep with minimum speed limit.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:40 PM
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The only problem I usually have is when I am on the motorsickle and I just "join in with them" in the right lane as I pass. They get pissed off but that's a personal problem. Bicycles don't belong on any roads where they can't can at least keep with minimum speed limit.
I ride a motorcycle as well and have no problem if a motorcycle passes me in my lane there is plenty of room for a bicycle and a motorcycle in the same lane. Cars and bikes trying to fit in the same lane not so much. And trust me I know what it's like getting hit by a car while riding a motorcycle, been there done that, hope to never go through that again.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:44 PM
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Paul, you would be proud of me. I bought a nice bike, Fuji Crosstown, from a local shop that provides lifetime service/repair. I love it for night rides on the golf course paths, but I am still freaked out when sharing a road with a vehicle. I haven't read the thread, but I can see frustration from both sides.
There are some roads I just won't ride on. I stay off of most of them in the NOLA metro area. Though I do have a 32 mile loop I do early on weekend mornings. I have the roads almost all to myself.
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
So you are OK trying to get me to cross a double yellow line or drop down to 12 mph in a 55 until I come across a passing line?
I will pass a slow moving vehicle on a double yellow if my line of sight is good enough.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
I agree with adding bike lanes. I think the major stipulation should be working it into the repaving or other necessary maintenance schedules. They don't cost much if a contractor is already there working, but are stupid expensive to build if that is the only thing being done.

Riding other than single file should be outright banned. There should also be a requirement for cyclists to pull off the road every so often if traffic (even single cars) are stuck behind them.
There was a video floating around that demonstrates that a motorist will spend more time in the oncoming lane passing a string of single file bicycles than if they are doubled up. That assumes the lane isn't wide enough for the vehicle to safely pass single file cyclists within their own lane.

I make a point to work to facilitate a motorists pass as quickly as I possibly can.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:59 PM
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I've thought about buying some recently...about as far as I've gotten with that idea so far.
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:01 PM
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This is the problem you and most car drivers don't know the laws. Bicycles are considered no different than a car on the road and are entitled to the entire lane where bike lanes don't exist.
It's really getting ridiculous on here with people complaining about school buses making too many stops, bicyclists taking up too much space. I just don't understand the hate that people have.
I don't have any hate. I do have places to be. The failure is of the cyclist to realize that excercize should not take precedent over everyday life. I don't mind being delayed a couple of minutes until a cyclist can give me space to safely overtake them. I do mind being delayed many minutes making me late keeping a reasonably planned schedule. I will go along with the notion that we all need to slow down a bit......but 10-20 minute cyclists delays are well beyond what the average motorist should expect or be told to "deal with, it's the law."
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god, I forgot all abut this crazy hate filled post. You know who I hate? People who fly kites.
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god, I forgot all abut this crazy hate filled post. You know who I hate? People who fly kites.
Next someone will post about being stuck behind mail men and garbage trucks.
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or those idiots with flag and signs on the side of the road. as if the stupid roadwork isn't annoying enough
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Next someone will post about being stuck behind mail men and garbage trucks.
Not sure about where you are, but they actually plan their routes to not be in the high traffic areas at busy time around here. They also pull over allowing others to get where they are going on a pretty frequent basis.

It just blows my mind that an entire group can take "we have a right to be here," and turn it into "shut up, we don't care how late we make you."

Again, no issue with cyclists, but I have a great issue with any individual or group thinking that somehow their much slower than normal paced activity should take priority over everyone else on the road.
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Here are some observations

The OP posted a picture of a design flaw that is hard to deal with in engineering a road for traffic and parking while accommodating bicycles. User conflict will happen.

I read comments about folks poking fun of a guy on a bike and being cheap or poor. My mountain bike is north of of 5 grand for carbon fiber and full suspension. My road bike is also quite expensive. I bike sometimes to commute to work and I bike for pleasure. How many of you drive on the interstate for your vacation? Do you guys not think truckers who are often paid with on time bonuses hate all of us guys in cars and trucks pulling our boats to the coast or lake just for fun clogging up their road which they pay a crap load of taxes to be on?

Cyclist have right to use the road and they have Responsibilities too. Kayakers have a right to the water just as a charter boat guy does as well, both sides have responsibilities in operating their craft on said waterways.

I have to say when I am on my bike on the road here in the mountains, guys with trucks and horse trailers or boats are very respectful. However, the folks I find surprisingly who give me the least space and respect are touring motorcyclist. I was cruising down the Blue Ridge Parkway last year doing 40 on my bicycle and this idiot on a Honda Gullwing comes along next to me within a foot of me. Then you got the A Hole Harley guys who insist on revving their engines to 125 db in the tunnels of the BRP. It is deafening if you are pedaling a bicycling especially uphill at slower pace.

I am a motorist, a boater, a kayaker, hiker, mountain biker, road biker ...I do it all and have learned respect for other users on the road, woods, or water. I don't own it anymore than the next guy.
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