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Old 03-17-2015, 05:44 AM
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Anybody else here use baitcasters exclusively?

Why do people, even folks who have their own rods, say they know how to use one, ask if they can use one of mine, then get a backlash (that they can't fix) and say either:

1. My bad man
2. This thing is set to loose/tight, etc.

How bout just don't touch my $hit?!

Am I the only person who has no desire to use another man's rod/reel? (And if I ever did, I sure as hell wouldn't if I didn't know what the F I was doing.)

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Old 03-17-2015, 05:52 AM
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Amen Brother! I agree 100%.
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Old 03-17-2015, 05:56 AM
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I understand completely. Here we toss large live bait to tailing and schooling marlin on fairly large reels which most often are not even level wind reels. this is a skill not easily learned, but it seems everyone want to "hook" their own fish. this rarely turn out well.
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We share our rods, heck I even borrow or loan them out. If I make a mess I fix, if they make a mess they fix.

The worst is when I backlash my own reel.... in front of a group of guys fishing my dock. Or... when I Power Cast a Hopkins 1.5 oz. Spoon on 10 lb. test and the spool overspins and the line stops, sending that spoon across state lines.
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White people problems!
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I've been casting conventional reels for 50 years and still put a doozy of a birds nest in one now and again . Especially trying to pitch something into the wind.
But I agree , I have no desire to use someone else's stuff. Most times people use mine.
I find that some people get it and some never will. I have spinning gear on board for them .
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I would never borrow someone's bait caster, I'm very content bird nesting my own...
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I personally would never touch another mans rod.....but whatever your into is ok with me...
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anybody I invite on my boat can use anything they want. If they go for the bait caster I usually tell them to "take it easy on that reel, I keep it pretty loose". But its just a bird nest if they mess up. It can be fixed. Chill out, some people take themselves and their stuff way to seriously.
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Originally Posted by GASeminole View Post

Am I the only person who has no desire to use another man's rod?

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I'd probably want to use another mans rod if I really had to do Kim Kardashian.







Carry on with whatever the important rant is about.........................
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I bring enough rods and reels on board to account for several failures. If a friend wants to try his hand at baitcasting reels, I will take the time to teach him. It is up to them to figure out if they really want to learn. It is like learning to hit a golf ball. You have to be dedicated to learning if you want to do it well. I am thankful that I had a helpful uncle who took the time to teach me at the edge of a swimming pool. My father only really knew how to teach me with spin cast or Zebco's. I took his lessons to heart, and I learned to do it well. That being said, backlashes still happen to me at times.

Setting the reel is key. I have only used baitcasting reels of others a few times. (It feels like messing with their significant others.) In those situations, I would have to cast very carefully until I became comfortable with their reel.

Life is too short to get upset about inexperienced anglers. None of us were born with a baitcaster in hand.
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Come on, it's only fishing and it's only fishing line.

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This is the result of my last experience with a baitcaster

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I have one saltwater bait caster, Almost always keep a top water set up on it. It's a nice change of pace or the old wrist when hitting hard with artificials. Reeling with the other hand for a bit to get the other one a rest.
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Originally Posted by trout25red View Post
I bring enough rods and reels on board to account for several failures. If a friend wants to try his hand at baitcasting reels, I will take the time to teach him. It is up to them to figure out if they really want to learn. It is like learning to hit a golf ball. You have to be dedicated to learning if you want to do it well. I am thankful that I had a helpful uncle who took the time to teach me at the edge of a swimming pool. My father only really knew how to teach me with spin cast or Zebco's. I took his lessons to heart, and I learned to do it well. That being said, backlashes still happen to me at times.

Setting the reel is key. I have only used baitcasting reels of others a few times. (It feels like messing with their significant others.) In those situations,

I would have to cast very carefully until I became comfortable with their reel.


Life is too short to get upset about inexperienced anglers. None of us were born with a baitcaster in hand.

That's what I say to any non experienced angler that would like to use mine.
Take it easy the first few cast to see how it reacts and you become comfortable with it.

Had an Abu Garcia that I really liked, flippin switch, spare spool, comfortable, adjustments, etc... Could cast it 50 times with no problem then the next cast, the exact way, a, professional over-run....bad enough to have to cut it out!!

I really like the Lews, especially the older ones, BB1NG and the like. Only a spool tension knob, no magnetic brakes, no centrifugal weights.
They are the most forgiving reels I have ever used. Cast into the wind, have a slight mis-cast and if you do have a problem they have always been easy to pick out.



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Everyone adjusts their reels differently. Even changing lures changes the feel. best not to let anyone use yours. Keep a spinning setup for someone to use.
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I went from Zebco (5 years old) to a baitcaster (maybe 10 years old) and then to a spinner. Aside from trolling reels I have not used anything aside from a spinner since. Why make things hard?
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I use bait caster reels unless I'm trying to cast anything less than 1/8oz, then I use spinning reels. I never let anyone use my bait casters but they are welcome to use my spinning reels. Personally I NEVER use anyone's stuff, I set up my reels the way I like them. If I ever broke someone else's rod/reel I would feel really bad so I just use my own stuff.

A couple of my fishing buddies give me crap when/if I happen to get a backlash. Sometimes I don't pay any attention when I'm casting and I don't stop my spool quick enough, or at times when I cast into the wind I will get a small backlash. I never get bad ones because I stop the spool before I get a real birds nest. I've been using bait casters for years and if I said I never get a backlash I would be lying, but they are rare.

Now what I REALLY HATE is when guys are using my spinning reels and they keep reeling against the drag and twisting the hell out of my line! I will just about blow a gasket when someone does that, especially after I have told them 2-3 times to stop doing it.

There is an easy way to get twist out of your line on spinning reels but I'm surprised more people don't know how it's done. I do it to my spinning reels after anyone uses them.

How many people know how to do it?
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Run the line out behind the boat on the way in.
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To be very clear, just the line, no knots, no clips, nothing.
After it is all (mostly all) out, drag it through the water for a while so it can untwist.
When reeling it back in, point the rod tip right at the line so everything will be straight.
Use two fingers to pinch and hold constant/even tension on the line as you wind it back in.
Doing all this the line will actually roll or turn as it is reeled back in.

I try to explain to people what, "Reeling against the drag", will do.
If your reel is a 5:1, and a fish is pulling drag out, for every turn of the reel handle, there will be 5 twist in the line.
When this is occurring, it typically isn't just one turn of the handle, it is a bunch. Do this multiple times and the line is a mess.

The other thing is, on spinning reels, not closing the bail by hand. "Please close it by hand like this, not like this, thank you."
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