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Old 03-06-2015, 10:06 AM
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Default Another AR question...removing muzzle brake/flash suppressor

What tools do the shooters here use to break down barrel components? I am waiting on my silencer tax stamp so I have time to prepare my barrels for this toy. I have been warned about not torquing the upper while unscrewing the end pieces. I've seen the cheap upper clam shell clamps and the really expensive Giessele armors tool that locks in the bore lugs. Have I missed something? Are there are factors I need to consider? Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:12 AM
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if your just removing the flash suppressor you should be able to lay it on its side on a table and use a wrench to unscrew it. make sure its not pinned or welded in place.
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Leather gloves and a bench vice. Like said above make sure she's not pinned. What silencer did you get?
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its not worth spending the 100 bucks on the geissele reaction rod unless you are planning on building many uppers or doing this a lot. The clamshell upper blocks with a vise will work fine but if you are planning on just doing it once I wouldn't even bother with that. Just like above lay it on its side and use a wrench.
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Originally Posted by Snakebit1 View Post
if your just removing the flash suppressor you should be able to lay it on its side on a table and use a wrench to unscrew it. make sure its not pinned or welded in place.
Good news. Both the AR10 and M4 are threaded without pins or welds.
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Leather gloves and a bench vice. Like said above make sure she's not pinned. What silencer did you get?
Silencerco Harvestor with adapters for the m4 and the ar10......still at least 2 months before BATF processes my application. The gun store allowed me to use it on their range. It was pretty cool. I didn't think about it until I pulled the trigger and saw the blowback. Silencers will dirty up a gun pretty quickly.

I like the built in flash suppressor that is part of the can. I didn't get the more expensive units since I like to start cheap and work my way up to what I should have bought in the first place.......my scope purchases reflect the tortured path I often take.
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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
its not worth spending the 100 bucks on the geissele reaction rod unless you are planning on building many uppers or doing this a lot. The clamshell upper blocks with a vise will work fine but if you are planning on just doing it once I wouldn't even bother with that. Just like above lay it on its side and use a wrench.
Thanks. This is consistent advice.
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Silencerco Harvestor with adapters for the m4 and the ar10......still at least 2 months before BATF processes my application. The gun store allowed me to use it on their range. It was pretty cool. I didn't think about it until I pulled the trigger and saw the blowback. Silencers will dirty up a gun pretty quickly.

I like the built in flash suppressor that is part of the can. I didn't get the more expensive units since I like to start cheap and work my way up to what I should have bought in the first place.......my scope purchases reflect the tortured path I often take.
they are extremely dirty for sure
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Silencerco Harvestor with adapters for the m4 and the ar10......still at least 2 months before BATF processes my application. The gun store allowed me to use it on their range. It was pretty cool. I didn't think about it until I pulled the trigger and saw the blowback. Silencers will dirty up a gun pretty quickly.

I like the built in flash suppressor that is part of the can. I didn't get the more expensive units since I like to start cheap and work my way up to what I should have bought in the first place.......my scope purchases reflect the tortured path I often take.
Silencerco has one of the best CS reputations in the can market, the Harvester should serve you well. Waiting on my SC Staker to get out of jail this summer.
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Silencerco Harvestor
Did you go the trust route?

I have been debating getting one lately and curious, can I deduct the cost on my taxes if I use it for the farm for predators?
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Originally Posted by Huntersun View Post
Silencerco has one of the best CS reputations in the can market, the Harvester should serve you well. Waiting on my SC Staker to get out of jail this summer.
Very good news. I had read good reviews but you never know if they are truthful. We are family here so your opinion is valued.

You probably know the answer to this question.......where should I go to buy silencer indexing rods. This can will be moved from gun to gun so I want to avoid a baffle strike due to a marginally out of alignment can.
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Did you go the trust route?

I have been debating getting one lately and curious, can I deduct the cost on my taxes if I use it for the farm for predators?
Yup. Total fee for trust docs......$125. Filled out an online app, had the trust docs in my email within 24 hrs.

Can't answer the tax question. IMHO......You can shoot predators without a can so you may not pass the "necessary in farming" standard you need to justify a farming deduction.
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Very good news. I had read good reviews but you never know if they are truthful. We are family here so your opinion is valued.

You probably know the answer to this question.......where should I go to buy silencer indexing rods. This can will be moved from gun to gun so I want to avoid a baffle strike due to a marginally out of alignment can.
Doubt you will have any problem but you can either take them to your favorite smith or find drill rods of the appropriate diameter to put in the bore and suppressor to see if it touches anything when rotated. 19/64" for 7.62 can.

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Originally Posted by Huntersun View Post
Doubt you will have any problem but you can either take to your favorite smith or find drill rods of the appropriate diameter to put in the bore and suppressor to see if it touches anything when rotated. 19/64" for 7.62 can.
yep, geissele sells them for $75 or you can get a drill rod for 7 bucks online of the appropriate size.
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Yup. Total fee for trust docs......$125. Filled out an online app, had the trust docs in my email within 24 hrs.

Can't answer the tax question. IMHO......You can shoot predators without a can so you may not pass the "necessary in farming" standard you need to justify a farming deduction.
Good news if you went the trust route. The times have diminished substantially.

I just got two cans approved in 3 months. I have three more pending but hope to get them by the spring.
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I had my two suppressors and my SBR clear in under 3 months as well. Trust route. Times are getting faster and faster. Thinking about getting either a 300 BO SBR or SBR'ing my other AR 10.25" LMT
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are ya'll having to clean the rifle after every 100 rds or so?
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Originally Posted by cfarmd View Post
are ya'll having to clean the rifle after every 100 rds or so?
I know I will be doing that. Maybe even more frequently. I normally bring a cleaning rod and cleaning patches to the range so swabbing out the barrel frequently will be a breeze.
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What's this concept of cleaning a gun? That's why I like O/U shotguns, 1911's, and M1A's.
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are ya'll having to clean the rifle after every 100 rds or so?
An AR15? Hell no I've never cleaned the ones I shoot most often. Barrel is lightly rusted on the outside and BCG is black where it shouldn't be but it runs and runs and runs and runs.
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