Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Dockside Chat
Reload this Page >

Power vs sail , why all the animosity ?

Notices

Power vs sail , why all the animosity ?

Old 03-01-2015, 02:33 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: 🌴 ⛵... 🚣....
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Power vs sail , why all the animosity ?

It's all the same playground.





Any thoughts on this ?
Old 03-01-2015, 02:35 PM
  #2  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Squidd Vicious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Nowhere near Uranus
Posts: 6,692
Likes: 0
Received 357 Likes on 171 Posts
Default

My thoughts are that I guess I must have struck a nerve calling you a WAFI
Old 03-01-2015, 02:35 PM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Somewhere in the middle of Michigan
Posts: 10,566
Likes: 0
Received 1,332 Likes on 713 Posts
Default

THT 8-footers.
Old 03-01-2015, 02:37 PM
  #4  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Squidd Vicious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Nowhere near Uranus
Posts: 6,692
Likes: 0
Received 357 Likes on 171 Posts
Default

Anchor doesn't hold well in those conditions when you drop it straight down from the bow of your sailboat and tie it off .
Old 03-01-2015, 02:40 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: 🌴 ⛵... 🚣....
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Squidd Vicious View Post
My thoughts are that I guess I must have struck a nerve calling you a WAFI

I am power but sail is fun too, I don't get it.


Actually kind of do some of those sail guys are jerks.


I made a wake the sea has waves get over it.


Think I figured this one out.
Old 03-01-2015, 02:44 PM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lewes, DE
Posts: 10,956
Received 2,978 Likes on 1,586 Posts
Default

Most of the sailors I know are elitist tw@ts. I know a lot of power boaters get annoyed at the right of way rules.
Old 03-01-2015, 02:57 PM
  #7  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Mobile,AL 96 Boston Whale
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I bought 2 small sailboats last summer..ended up having 2 accidents with the first one.

both times rescued by power boaters so not everyone feels this way.


But yea I have met some internet sailboaters that were snooty but I didn't let it bother me.

Sailboats are fun, like a sport..

Powerboats are more useful and in ways, safer. I never would have had my second accident had I been in my power boat.

Apples and oranges.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:00 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Sneaky Snooker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: South Florida
Posts: 9,084
Received 669 Likes on 270 Posts
Default

I just don't like Blow Boaters.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:00 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Hagar TH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Central Fl
Posts: 4,421
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
Most of the sailors I know are elitist tw@ts. I know a lot of power boaters get annoyed at the right of way rules.
"There aint no right of way in a gale boy" Sam Mountain.
Most of the animosity occurs inside the 3 mile limit. Out there every one needs a friend. I own two power boats and I have sailed single handed over 3,000 miles, pulled in power boats and had them pull me in. Amongst real watermen there is no difference.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:01 PM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,341
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Sailboaters cant steer straight they are always zigzaging like drunks
Old 03-01-2015, 03:05 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Retired Bizy Livin
Posts: 7,686
Received 1,340 Likes on 949 Posts
Default

here we go again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wfdq_3F9VA
Old 03-01-2015, 03:14 PM
  #12  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: West Carolina
Posts: 22,003
Received 1,586 Likes on 858 Posts
Default

Just an observation. When I was in the USCG the blow boaters gave us a lot more heartburn than the power boats. It takes a lot more skill to successfully sail a boat than to push throttles and turn the wheel and I respect a good sailor. But, what I saw was the up and coming that could afford a nice boat and they decided on a sail boat vs. a power boat. Sails have deeper draft, taller masts, and unless under power, are harder to navigate in tighter situations. Therefore, rookies/novices can usually handle a power boat better than they can handle a sail boat. At least that's my observation and I'm sticking to it.

I had an uncle who sailed our of Coronado CA on a 52 he had rigged so he could sail it by himself. He was good. There are good sailors out there but there are a lot who aren't.

I won't get started on the attitudes of those who aren't but think they are.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:17 PM
  #13  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
captainmarknc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Myrtle Beach SC
Posts: 1,465
Received 717 Likes on 398 Posts
Default

Snailboaters are really powerboaters in disguise. They motor 90% of the time or more.

Many are also quite frugal, since the wind is free they don't expect to have to pay for anything.







Old 03-01-2015, 03:39 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Hagar TH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Central Fl
Posts: 4,421
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=captainmarknc;7616801]Snailboaters are really powerboaters in disguise. They motor 90% of the time or more.

Many are also quite frugal, since the wind is free they don't expect to have to pay for anything.

No idea, no clue. When my engine died 50 miles back in the ENP on a Summer trip I took a jib sail from an old Flying Scot out of my bow locker and rigged my pushpole for a mast, sailed down the Broad River and back to Chocko. What would you have done, Bubba?
Old 03-01-2015, 03:40 PM
  #15  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Sharon Springs, NY
Posts: 4,516
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

This is gonna sound, and probably is, sexist, but it is what it is. My marina is half and half. All are super nice people that are willing to crack a beer and have a laugh at night but the women are snooty, obnoxious and uneducated as to the rules of the road. Most take the helm immediately after departure and the claws come out quick if things don't go their way.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:48 PM
  #16  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seacoast NH
Posts: 6,626
Received 1,520 Likes on 713 Posts
Default

I can't speak for everyone, but I hate them because they stragically plan their regattas at the mouth of whatever harbor I am running in to. Of course only when it has been a really long day and I just want to get in. Or my favorite when they feel the need to sail up river against a 4kt current tacking back and forth but making no headway.

The funny thing is I really enjoy sailing. But most people who sail have their head up their ass. They remind me of the Prius in the left hand lane doing the speed limit, because they can.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:50 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Hagar TH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Central Fl
Posts: 4,421
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Boehler View Post
This is gonna sound, and probably is, sexist, but it is what it is. My marina is half and half. All are super nice people that are willing to crack a beer and have a laugh at night but the women are snooty, obnoxious and uneducated as to the rules of the road. Most take the helm immediately after departure and the claws come out quick if things don't go their way.
and those "Nautical Wheelers"have never been beyond the breakers, and they are your lawful prey. Blast em all you want.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:56 PM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
ol guide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Baja Sur
Posts: 6,958
Received 1,189 Likes on 404 Posts
Default

I am a dyed in the wool power boater but i have spent many fine days on sailboats. When you consider the average American recreational boater puts about 50 operational hours on their boat it stands to reason that folks arent going to be well trained regardless of the power source, also most of this time is spent well inshore and often in tight situations. I will also say that, in my opinion, operating a sailing vessel in good order takes more skill than a power boat. Most of the problems ive seen with WAFIs is close in and they dont know how to operate close in, But ive seen some truly ****ed up power boaters as well. This is an ongoing debate and it wont end, but its a toss up. Theres good and bad on both fronts.
Old 03-01-2015, 03:56 PM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
captainmarknc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Myrtle Beach SC
Posts: 1,465
Received 717 Likes on 398 Posts
Default

[quote=Hagar TH;7616877]
Originally Posted by captainmarknc View Post
Snailboaters are really powerboaters in disguise. They motor 90% of the time or more.

Many are also quite frugal, since the wind is free they don't expect to have to pay for anything.

No idea, no clue. When my engine died 50 miles back in the ENP on a Summer trip I took a jib sail from an old Flying Scot out of my bow locker and rigged my pushpole for a mast, sailed down the Broad River and back to Chocko. What would you have done, Bubba?
I would have called Towboat US. Nothing wrong with improvising, though.

I started out sailing as a youth - we had a blue jay that won the nationals. I also recently sold my MX-Ray. Fastest sailing skiff ever made.

But I much prefer power boating as you get where you want to go, usually, and as stated, sailboaters motor the majority of the time so they are really power boaters.

There is animosity in certain harbors, I've witnessed it, and it is usually the snailbaters hating the powerboaters. This, after slowing down to pass with no wake and generally going out of our way for them. I've been cut off in rough seas in narrow inlets by more than one clueless sailboater.
Old 03-01-2015, 04:05 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 1,621
Received 172 Likes on 98 Posts
Default

I own a power boat and a sailboat. I wouldn't own a power boat unless it was a fishing boat.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.